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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 19:19 pm 
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I stumbled across a photo showing Italian infantry (in battledress) riding on a Churchill tank in 1945. Here is the photo:

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Churchill tank of ‘C’ Squadron, North Irish Horse carrying Italian infantry of 3rd Battalion, 21st Infantry (Italian), north of Castel Borsetti, 2 March 1945

Found here: http://modelhobby.eu/2012/08/british-co ... -in-italy/

This piqued my interest and a quick bit of googling found this wiki article.

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On 28 September 1943, the Italian Co-Belligerent Army began when its first military unit was formed in tented reorganization camps near Lecce. Some of the first soldiers in this unit had just barely managed to escape internment by the Germans.[1] In accordance with Royal Army Order 70/V, the Italian First Motorized Combat Group (1• Raggruppamento Motorizzato) was created. The unit included elements of two divisions of the old Italian Royal Army: The 18 Infantry Division Messina and the 58 Infantry Division Legnano[2] The First Motorized Combat Group had a strength of 295 officers and 5,387 men.
The first action of the First Motorized Combat Group was in the Cassino sector at Monte Lungo. This action did much to remove the Allied distrust of the Italian soldiers fighting on their side.[3] The unit suffered heavy casualties and performed well enough.[2]
Following service with the American 5th Army and re-organization, the First Motorized Combat Group was transferred to the Polish II Corps on the extreme left of the British 8th Army.[3]


Read the rest of it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Co ... 44_to_1945

It seems quite an interesting and little known side of the war. Anyone have any good photos of them? Or any recommendations as to websites etc.?

Has anyone here portrayed these troops?

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The Wearing of BD but with Italiano insignia does add to the Scale of Issue.

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The co belligerant side is sadly lacking although some of us are slowly getting bits and pieces together to show off the part the italians played on the allied side. Italian involvment in the war is generally sadly lacking apart from our selves, me ne frego and a few inspired individuals who know the feel of itchy GV uniformi and the taste of grappa the next day, rising from the very depths of our intestinal tract.

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Co-belligerant is interesting from a historical point of view - in so much as I doubt many of joe public know that it happened.

Danger is with it as a reenactment concept is that you are just another brown job in a field of brown jobs.

I did look at rebadging my BD a while back but in the end it sort of got lost as an idea.

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We tried doing similar when we did British, badged up as a unit in Italy, had all the info out for it, got desert kit as well, used combos of the two, but it completely failed. Glad to wear the Grigio Verde though.


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Italian involvment in the war is generally sadly lacking apart from our selves, me ne frego and a few inspired individuals who know the feel of itchy GV uniformi and the taste of grappa the next day, rising from the very depths of our intestinal tract.

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Si Camerati, it is a calling much like the Priesthood but without the interest in little boys.

The Sacred GV is a benediction and madness to find its one true form, as the fevered ravings of Camerata Elsan have taught me

i gentiluomini stand with their Camerati, Mediterraneo e me ne frego in the respectful depiction of Italiano Marshal might.

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Odd question for you all. Do any of you know anything about the regimental numbers given to individual soldiers in the Co-Belligerent army?

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