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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 8:26 am 
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Hello all!

Trying to ID which bike my G/Grandfather is using in this photo, is it a Hercules or Phillips Roadster?? :?

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Ultimately I'd like to track one down and restore.

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I think it's a Hercules or a Hercules variation, they both have that handlebar shape and the frame.

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Just been informed the sprocket design could be a Mercury :s

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Its almost identical to my Phillips Military Roadster apart from the chainset.

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that a pre-restoration photo!


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Blimey, some of my bikes are 'big' for me. I would love to have seen him get on that one!

Note the bike in the photo has no external rear brake so would have been a coaster brake.


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Bit late, but I just found this post!! It's a mk v BSA military bicycle.


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Yes, it's a "military roadster, MkV", made by either BSA or Philips, with rod brakes on the front wheel and coaster brakes on the rear.
There is a variant called the MkV* which had road-brakes on the rear, not the usual coaster brake.
Easy way to tell it's not a post-war Mercury is the bolted (not screwed on) head-stock top bearing. Also, Mercurys are 26" wheels where as BSA MkIVs and MkVs are 28" wheels (except for some of the Philips produced bikes which were 26" wheels).

The earlier MkIV looks very similar, but an instant feature to look for is the front mudguard which doesn't protrude from the front of the forks.


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Sorry to hijack the thread,but does anyone know how much the BSA mkv's with coaster hub go for nowadays?


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blitzkrieg wrote:
Sorry to hijack the thread,but does anyone know how much the BSA mkv's with coaster hub go for nowadays?


MkVs are actually rarer than parabikes nowerdays!
And I've only ever seen one MkIV in the flesh ever.
But unfortunately neither reach as much price-wise - probably about £250max for a fully restored museum quality example with rifle clips. There's lots of MkVs in Greece and Crete still, where they can be bought relatively cheaply just as "an old bike" from locals, but it took me ages to find mine here in England, and I was lucky with the price (£66).


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I'm not sure about WWII, but in the Great War, civilian bicycles of the correct spec were also pressed into service. Most manufacturers did a "military" style version of their gents roadsters, with all brightwork painted or enamelled black. I imagine this was more common on the home front than overseas though.
As McV says, real MKV's are very hard to source nowadays, and most will have had things like chainsets, saddles and grips replaced at some time, so would still need work done and money spent.
To put it into perspective, a B67 or B17 saddle alone will cost 80 beans
Unless you're prepared to do a lot of searching, any fairly original 28" wheel / 24" frame rodder of 1920s to 1950s vintage can be pimped out as a military cycle or sympathetically restored.
Beware... vintage cycles are like crack cocaine - you always want to get a bit more. Soon you'll look back and think how cheap your re-enactment kit was compared to your new hobby :)

Here are some cool links for bike porn

http://oldbike.wordpress.com/

http://www.theoldbicycleshowroom.co.uk

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Re-hashing this thread- any more British military bike owners out there who would like to share pics of their bikes? This is a Phillips MKV* that I have just bought.
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Nice! I think it has the same issues as mine - the wrong tyres are fitted (they don't fill the mud guards). They should be similar to modern mountain bike tyres but have proven to be impossible to find. Do you think you could give me the size of yours plus any writing on the rims themselves?


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Have you tried India? I got some really nice tyres for my 1920s Sunbeam.

Gopal Singh is one company, another is this one.

http://www.indiamart.com/marsexim/bicyc ... parts.html

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I have one of the ex-Irish Army MkV* bikes which came out about 15 years ago.

Does anyone know if they are war-time? Presumably BSA must have finished production soon after the end of the war.
Also does anyone make the Rifle Clips which are different to the folding bike type.


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rockhopper wrote:
Nice! I think it has the same issues as mine - the wrong tyres are fitted (they don't fill the mud guards). They should be similar to modern mountain bike tyres but have proven to be impossible to find. Do you think you could give me the size of yours plus any writing on the rims themselves?


Try searching for modern tire size 40-635 they will fit these 28 x 1 1/2 inch rims.

These should fit;
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/201601284570 ... EBIDX%3AIT


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REME 245 wrote:
I have one of the ex-Irish Army MkV* bikes which came out about 15 years ago.

Does anyone know if they are war-time? Presumably BSA must have finished production soon after the end of the war.
Also does anyone make the Rifle Clips which are different to the folding bike type.


From the ones I have seen, yes they are wartime.


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