WWIIReenacting.co.uk Forums

Uniting UK Re-enactors since 2003
 

It is currently Tue Jul 17, 2018 17:29 pm

Support the Forum
END OF YEAR OFFER - HALF PRICE SUPPORTER MEMBERSHIPS - CLICK THE BANNER TO READ MORE AND SUPPORT THE FORUM

Username



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 16 posts ] 
Author Message
Offline
 Post subject: Armed Sanitäts
PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:23 am 
Forum Legend
User avatar
 YIM  Profile

Joined: Wed Jun 01, 2005 6:55 am
Posts: 10575
Location: Bomber County England
Real Name: Bri.
i dont know if this had been coverd befor but a friend of mine says hes got this book that shows Falschirmjager Sanitäts armed and with out the id marking he says, it says, thay didnt wear the id tabard of armbands but carried the fur pack and bread bags plus the medics pouch , i know they were armed with a pistol but he says in one pic they have rifles and FG42's
i havnt seen the book or wont see it until friday but i have pics of Sanitäts
wearing the tabard and armbands but cant find any pics of the red cross markings on the falscherm helmet ( can anyone supply anymore info please Bri..

_________________
It's time to stand-up and be counted

Id sooner be 20 minutes late in this world than 20 years to soon in the next.


Top
 

Support the Forum
END OF YEAR OFFER - HALF PRICE SUPPORTER MEMBERSHIPS - CLICK THE BANNER TO READ MORE AND SUPPORT THE FORUM

Username
Offline
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 20:39 pm 
2000+ Poster
User avatar
 Profile

Joined: Fri Sep 03, 2004 22:22 pm
Posts: 2360
Location: norfolk
i doubt they were with an FG42?? my mate told me it was only on the estern front the sani was armed as ivan would shoot them regaurdless but in the west they were never armed as they would be treated well and they knew the war was over so surrenderd as soon as possible

_________________
www.916gr.co.uk www.gd-uk.org
big collector of German wepons, grenades and equepment

Also Dislexic :lolroll:


Top
 

Offline
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 22:40 pm 
Forum Legend
User avatar
 YIM  Profile

Joined: Wed Jun 01, 2005 6:55 am
Posts: 10575
Location: Bomber County England
Real Name: Bri.
yeah you may have a point there i was told they were armed on Kreta.

_________________
It's time to stand-up and be counted

Id sooner be 20 minutes late in this world than 20 years to soon in the next.


Top
 

Offline
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 10:05 am 
2000+ Poster
User avatar
 Profile

Joined: Thu Jun 09, 2005 9:06 am
Posts: 2332
Location: Burnopfield, Durham
Real Name: Brian
Group: Hirschberg Society
I expect they were armed on Crete, as the cretans were killing any Germans they came across, wounded or not!

_________________
Panzer Lehr 130 Aufklarungs Batt
" Regimenter sterben zehnmahl, aber es bleibt....das Regiment."
Unsere Ehre ist, wenn sie unsere Aufgabe erfüllt
Schweiß speichert Blut
"...the future is clearly known, only the past has to be rewritten"
Image


Top
 

Offline
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 21:43 pm 
1000+ Poster
 Profile

Joined: Wed Jul 14, 2004 20:37 pm
Posts: 1753
They were called to fight as riflemen on crete due to the desperate situation at the end of the first day.


Top
 

Offline
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 23:01 pm 
Forum Legend
User avatar
 YIM  Profile

Joined: Wed Jun 01, 2005 6:55 am
Posts: 10575
Location: Bomber County England
Real Name: Bri.
ah! thanks for that shabby

_________________
It's time to stand-up and be counted

Id sooner be 20 minutes late in this world than 20 years to soon in the next.


Top
 

Offline
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 23:21 pm 
1000+ Poster
 Profile

Joined: Wed Jul 14, 2004 20:37 pm
Posts: 1753
You're welcome, though I may have made it up.


Top
 

Offline
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 12:21 pm 
2000+ Poster
User avatar
 Profile

Joined: Thu Jun 24, 2004 22:25 pm
Posts: 2345
Location: O'er the hills and far away
What was the ratio of medical personnel to fighting men at, say, battalion level? Was there a medic in each section/platoon or were casualties tended to by a company/battalion/regimental medical staff?

_________________
"In a word.... f**k yes."


Top
 

Offline
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 13:34 pm 
1000+ Poster
 Profile

Joined: Wed Jul 14, 2004 20:37 pm
Posts: 1753
There was a medical establishment throughout at all levels and then seperate medical battalions, field hospitals on top.


Top
 

Offline
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 13:44 pm 
2000+ Poster
User avatar
 Profile

Joined: Thu Jun 24, 2004 22:25 pm
Posts: 2345
Location: O'er the hills and far away
Cheers. My second question: With that in mind, would individual squads/sections (call them what you will) have a "medic" in the traditional sense?

_________________
"In a word.... f**k yes."


Top
 

Offline
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 14:31 pm 
1000+ Poster
 Profile

Joined: Wed Jul 14, 2004 20:37 pm
Posts: 1753
I think each platoon had at least one but its been a long time, I'd have to check.


Top
 

Offline
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 17:04 pm 
2000+ Poster
User avatar
 Profile

Joined: Thu Jun 24, 2004 22:25 pm
Posts: 2345
Location: O'er the hills and far away
If you could, that'd be very much appreciated :)

_________________
"In a word.... f**k yes."


Top
 

Offline
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 13:14 pm 
2000+ Poster
User avatar
 Profile

Joined: Thu Jun 09, 2005 9:06 am
Posts: 2332
Location: Burnopfield, Durham
Real Name: Brian
Group: Hirschberg Society
Under the Geneva Convention(s) it is perfectly legal for medical personnel to carry arms. They can do so to protect wounded personnel, medical aid posts and field hospitals. Only the US and the British interpreted the Convention to mean that medical personnel should be unarmed. This lead to US troops(again!) shooting armed German Sanis for 'being in breach of the Geneva Convention'.
The Russian and Japanese military took no notice of the various Geneva Conventions and targeted medical personnel, ambulances and hospitals despite the Red Cross markings(in most cases using it as an aiming point).
It goes without saying that partisans and resistance fighters ignore any international legal conventions.

_________________
Panzer Lehr 130 Aufklarungs Batt
" Regimenter sterben zehnmahl, aber es bleibt....das Regiment."
Unsere Ehre ist, wenn sie unsere Aufgabe erfüllt
Schweiß speichert Blut
"...the future is clearly known, only the past has to be rewritten"
Image


Top
 

Offline
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 17:15 pm 
1000+ Poster
 Profile

Joined: Wed Jul 14, 2004 20:37 pm
Posts: 1753
Not strictly true, from my extensive reading the red cross symbol was ignored by both sides on the eastern front in the large scale (German documents of the period mentioning the Ussr's non-signatory status at the Geneva convention as justification for ignoring the rights of Soviet prisoners) , but at lower command level both sides did show a degree of respect for it.

On balance wounded German prisoners fared marginally better than their Soviet counterparts in the ruthless campaigns fought by both sides.

At Stalingrad a proportion of the Russian army's already slender medical resources were set aside solely to treat wounded german and other prisoners of war. German veterans statements confirm this as well as post-war research by Russian authors in the journal Voenno-Meditsinski Zhurnal.

Believe me I have no axe to grind when I say this.

It's a fact that surprised me greatly as I always assumed that wounded German prisoners would be always left to their own medical establishment, such as it might be, or otherwise disposed.

I have also found numerous examples of a German humanity toward Russian prisoners and wounded which utterly belie the image of the merciless National Socialist thug so often ascribed to the German soldier in the East.

One day I'll put them on a thread here.

As I said, I've no axe to grind......


Top
 

Offline
 Post subject: Re: Armed Sanitäts
PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:33 pm 
1000+ Poster
 Profile

Joined: Wed Jul 14, 2004 20:37 pm
Posts: 1753
I'm sorry I don't speak 'text'.


Top
 

Offline
 Post subject: Re: Armed Sanitäts
PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 14:42 pm 
 Profile

Joined: Fri May 01, 2009 9:05 am
Posts: 150
Real Name: Graeham
Group: Isle of Man Home Guard Re-enactment Society
In Normandy during the first few days there were several instances of US medical troops being shot by German forces. On one occasion they shot one of the Regimental Surgeons in the 82nd, his medics, the wounded paratroops and several French civilians who had helped the wounded - a total of 24 people.

Unfortunately all sides were guilty of shooting medical personnell.

_________________
Blessed be the Lord my God who teaches my hands for battle and my fingers to fight.


Top
 

Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 16 posts ] 


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to: