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Dunno if this has been posted before.....hope it's of interest

(just surfaced in the filing system)

Good info. I've seen it before though, did you get it from the M1 Carbine forum?

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Cheers for that IOC - it confirms my Rock-ola as extremely late in the April 44 range...3,000 from the end.

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My Inland matches the barrel date of May '44. I've often wondered how long after manufacture it was before it landed here in Europe.

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Same here, TBH

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Lo, There Do I See My Mother, My Sisters And My Brothers
Lo, There Do I See My People, Back To The Beginning
Lo, There Do They Call To Me, And Beg Me To Take My Place
In The Halls Of Valhalla, Where the Brave Shall Live Forever

In the chaos of battle, when the ground beneath your feet is a slurry of blood, puke, p**s and the entrails of friends and enemies alike, it's easy to turn to the gods for salvation. But it's soldiers who do the fighting, and soldiers who do the dying, and the gods never get their feet wet.

One enemy is never enough, two is far too many
"Bravery is being the only one who knows you're afraid."
Jo Hukam

Nope

There was a "safety" period for supplies to be in transit or in stock, that was designed not to exceede 90 days, so generally, supplies were planned to be issued no later than 90 days from entering the supply line. Obviously there will be instances where this didnt occur.

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Very interesting. Thanks for the info.

Joe

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Is that from manufacture or from arrival in Europe?

I was wondering earlier how long it would have taken to get the first carbines out to troops either in training or out in the pacific or to North Africa etc.

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Jon mate..as long as it took the troop ships to arrive....there are pics of troops in North Africa and also arriving in Northern Ireland with them.
That serial number list is very "general"..and has been proven of late to be wrong in places....especially with sub contract receivers..line outs.....floor sweep guns......cancelled contracts....M1A1s.....
Good general info though

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Lloyd

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That was from the US Army receiving an item. It was discovered that with "normal" amounts of supplies the "saftey" period was broken regarding the PTO, they therefore increased the amount in the supply line to ensure there were no shortages on the front line due to the increased time it took to get an item into the theatre. The real question as Lloyd touched on, is when did the Army take first delivery, there are instances where equipment reached the front lines prior to the dates they were made!!!! This is because the date stamp was decided prior to the order beginning, for example if a company were given an order for 100,000 carlisle pouches, they would estimate say 6 months for delivery and they would be dated accordingly (and recorded accordingly) but if they finished the order early, say in two months, even allowing for the 90 days in the supply chain, it is feasible the item was in the front line before its "finished" date.

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Ah Yes Wullie mate the good ol "fiscal year of production" argument....... also regarding carbines a barrel and receiver match is quite rare.As makers often made more barrels than receivers (spares..wear / throat erosion etc)...rebuilds.Also makers i.e sub contractors made barrels for makers that only made receivers.....complicated things them carbines..

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Lloyd

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Yep, reading the "History of the Quartermaster department Of the US Army" is like watching paint dry, but you do come across the odd interesting bit.

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So nothing's ever cut & dried when it comes to anything US

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Lo, There Do I See My Father
Lo, There Do I See My Mother, My Sisters And My Brothers
Lo, There Do I See My People, Back To The Beginning
Lo, There Do They Call To Me, And Beg Me To Take My Place
In The Halls Of Valhalla, Where the Brave Shall Live Forever

In the chaos of battle, when the ground beneath your feet is a slurry of blood, puke, p**s and the entrails of friends and enemies alike, it's easy to turn to the gods for salvation. But it's soldiers who do the fighting, and soldiers who do the dying, and the gods never get their feet wet.

One enemy is never enough, two is far too many
"Bravery is being the only one who knows you're afraid."
Jo Hukam

Yes Oggy the war officially ended on September 2nd 1945......

Regards

Lloyd

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STOP ! STOP ! STOP ! THE BOOZE IS EXPLODING !..S/Sgt Costin to the rest of the Jeep Raid Convoy somewhere near Bricquebeq...Normandy 2010

That must've been when the Fiscal Year ended, perchance?

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Lo, There Do I See My Father
Lo, There Do I See My Mother, My Sisters And My Brothers
Lo, There Do I See My People, Back To The Beginning
Lo, There Do They Call To Me, And Beg Me To Take My Place
In The Halls Of Valhalla, Where the Brave Shall Live Forever

In the chaos of battle, when the ground beneath your feet is a slurry of blood, puke, p**s and the entrails of friends and enemies alike, it's easy to turn to the gods for salvation. But it's soldiers who do the fighting, and soldiers who do the dying, and the gods never get their feet wet.

One enemy is never enough, two is far too many
"Bravery is being the only one who knows you're afraid."
Jo Hukam