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On the night of July 18th 1941 the sirens sang out to warn of approaching bombers.
The time given was woefully short and many people heading home from Hull or nearby headed into the public surface shelter on Mulgrave St.
Most were, predictably elderly or very young.

I visited the area today and took some 'then and now' pictures.
You can see where terraces were sheared off, chimney breasts still stand.

Looking at the pictures from 1941 you can see exactly how terrible the site must have been for the rescue workers. The shelter took a direct hit.

Warrener, Alice - 34 yrs - 18 Jul 1941
Warrener, Kathleen - 14 mos - 18 Jul 1941
Catterick, Doris-19 (married only three weeks earlier, died with her husband Bernard, home on leave, a sapper in the R.E.)
http://www.rhaywood.karoo.net/st-james/war-biogs.htm

Image Shortly after the bombing
Image you can see the Maizecor tower, still there-just re-clad.
Another, futher back. So many gaps in the terraces, it must have been terrifying.
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Also visited another street off Newland Avenue, now a trendy student area which also sustained some bomb damage. I found this smaller type brick surface shelter still standing.
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Too hard to destroy, so bricked up and left standing.

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great photos,especially like the air raid shelter one, I used to deliver for Currys electricals in hull for 6 years must have been on every street but have never seen that before all the best regards John.


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excellent, ive done much the same thing in CARDIFF AND NEWPORT, look up the war dead civillian part under cemetaries in your are and it gives the locations of those civies killed, amazing when you tehn go to teh spot and places you didn't notice passing them a 1000 times before come into sharp focus and also strange to think that of all teh people passing by you are the only one aware of what went on there an dwho died there


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Excellent Kate, love "then and now" photos.

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I have to say, I wish I had been braver, as we walked down Mulgrave Street, which isn't in the nicest part of town, I saw a very old lady who was scrubbing her doorstep! You just don't see that any more.
I wish I had asked her, looked like she had been there a long time.
Some kids asked me why I was taking photos and when I told them they said 'cooooool' which, it isn't but bless them they were interested!
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Thanks for posting that Kate, the then and now format is certainly quite a moving one, lumpy throat moment.

I was wondering, is there a database for this kind of thing at all, or is it mainly down to local knowledge/articles, looking at civilian casualties in cemeteries or passing mention in books etc?

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The Genuki civilian casualties list and the CWGC website is great for crossreferencing.
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Great pics kate :wink:

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The Genuki civilian casualties list and the CWGC website is great for crossreferencing.
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Cheers for that Kate, remember you mentioning the Genuki list, but couldn't remember the name for the life of me :oops:.

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Delhi St, Marfleet Hull.
Nr the docks, railway lines and Saltend petrochemical works.
Got some funny looks off the locals....
Nothing much appears to have been done since 1941.

Image Looking towards the site of impact.

Image Where the terrace was chopped in half. Oddly enough it transpired that my sons dad had a relative killed here.

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This is Preston Road, a bit of a rough area-interestingly the area where bombs last fell on UK soil during WW2.

They are 'redeveloping' (read-demolishing) this site, Preston Rd took a real hammering. As you can see they were prepared with brick surface shelters built in 1938-39.

These are all coming down shortly. Had one eye on Camera and other on my son telling him to watch what he was standing in. (needles/broken glass/dog poo/Nails...) Police CSO arrived to find out what I was up to, had a good natter with him re my project. I'm doing an open day there next week to commemorate the last bomb falling of WW2.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar/stor ... 6575.shtml Great veterans story relating to the area...

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Interestingly, the shelters have little brick alcoves built in to take the Shelter bunk beds....

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I take my hat off to you Kate this really is an interesting thread,as I mentioned I used to work in Hull so I have a bit of an affection for the place.Love the pics keep them coming if you can,regards John.


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Thanks John!
Loads more to come.
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Miss Spitfire wrote:
This is Preston Road, a bit of a rough area-interestingly the area where bombs last fell on UK soil during WW2.


so you have just as much chance of getting killed ,,, just not by falling bombs


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Well done Kate in photographing these shelters etc. Hull if memory serves was more severly damaged than any other city. (working on the percentage of houses damaged/destroyed)

As you are probably aware those surface shelters were deathtraps. The building often left soomething to be desired such as correct mix of concrete and they more often than not were built on the road surface with no foundations.

They were a classic case of local government having to do something and cutting corners. It is a similar story with the postioning of AA guns in centres of population. These gun sites were to help with moral - the sound of the guns would give the population the impression that the bombers were getting as good as they were giving. Never mind shrapnel falling on ARP, rescue services heads and damaging roofs.

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