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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 20:22 pm 
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Hi all, I am putting together a ATS service dress uniform and not sure which Anti-Aircraft (Ack-Ack) patches to go for; embroidered or printed.
I've got a set of both (2nd pattern) but which should I go with?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 20:36 pm 
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My 1941 ATS tunic has the embroidered type sewn on...I prefer the embroidered type patches anyway.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 21:38 pm 
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I believe the printed was late war... So depends on what time frame you want to portray really?

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That's right. Printed late war, embroidered earlier. Neither are incorrect, just depends when you want to join up!


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Thanks everyone for the info.
My uniform is early war so embroidered ones it is then.
I agree with NCA75 they do look better than the printed ones.

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Presumably early in the war personal wore the divisional badges they belonged to but not sure when the AA Command Badges came into use.
Depends what period you are portraying.


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If I remember, AA command badges were adopted by all AA units in '42... I'm not sure if they were worn earlier?

Before then, generally it was the division patches that were worn, or not at all.

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Yes, just checked... The big 'shake up' and reorganisation of AA command, was in Sept '42, when the different divisions etc were changed into 7 different 'groups'.

I assume this is when the new AA Command patch was brought in.

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Bit of info here.

http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/30072529


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Dont forget also, early examples of the bow&arrow patch had the bow completely curved, later ones the bow was "wavy" (probably not the correct terminology but hopefully you get my drift) The one on the IWM website is the later one, in use up until 1955.

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