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Hi,
Still wondering what the correct thing is to wear with the ATS service dress.
For parties and evening wear I suppose the normal seamed stockings are ok?(what denier, 15??)
And if I want to do an impression of an ATS lady on daytime service??
I hope some one can help me out?

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There are som original or post-war stockigns on ebay ones in a while. But don't know about the differnce between wartime and post-war material and color.
When I'm lazy I wear a modern pany denier 60 (I believe). But can me mistaken because I can't find the box. And when I'm not that lazy I wear civilian cream-colored stockings.

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I wear my seamed stockings... god knows what denier they are, whichever pair take my fancy... but i have to wear the pink suspender belt aswell... as a modern one, for me, doesn't make the whole uniform authentic :wink:

I also have, now, 2 pairs of the woolen stockings... but i think they are too nice to wear... until I get a few more pairs then I might consider it :wink: :lol: :P

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So if i am not mistaken seamed stockings are ok for evenening wear?I see loads of them on ebay but still don't know what size and colour is ok..I have shoesize 6 / 6.5

What about daytime when on duty?I suppose when cold weather the woollen ones, but what about warm days?(well most events take place in the summer!)

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If I walked around an event in SD in the summer, I'd personally wear my seamed stockings... or I'd wear some khaki socks... it all depends what they could get hold of back then :wink:

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I'm a shoe size 5 and my stockings, are a 9... what you do, to find out, is measure your foot, from your toes to your heal, in inches and you find your size out that way.

Hope this helps,

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Correct me if I'm wrong but i thought that seamed stockings are always good... Unless they are made form a nasty modern substance.
http://www.pixum.nl/members/mfhilgers/?act=a_view&album=2286026&i_pos=12&page=2&ktw=9ce4971c3cbb8ab5c63ecdf19cf047dd
(the stockings my mom and I wear, are seamed aswell)

And I have a ATS suspender belt aswell but it's to small :cry: So I have to wear a civy 40's one. The modern one's whith plastic jarretels are to thin to bear the weight of old more heavy stockings.
So if you have those kinds of stockings try to get a suspender belt with metal jarretels.

p.s. about the photo I don't meen the guys in kilt but the ATS scottish command and WAC :lol:


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If you can find them, you should wear the :

"Stockings, ATS" (described in the ATS clothing lists as "fully fashioned, leight-weight gauges, khaki")

Listed according to the ATS clothing-list as "Necessaries" you would have been issued with 4 pairs, and if you would serve in "Temperate Areas" or in the A.D.G.B. units ( Air Defence of Great Brittain = "Ack Ack girls") you would additional receive 3 pairs of "Stockings, woollen, khaki, A.T.S."; same to Axiliaries employed in Provost Wing.

If serving in "Tropical Areas" the issuing scale of "Stockings, ATS" will be reduced to 3 pairs.
When serving in "India", "Stockings, ATS" -in a scale of 2 pairs- where retained until unserviseable, but NOT replaced.

The "Stockings, ATS" are made from cotton "Lisle" material, in a light khaki colour. (see photo)

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Woohoo the only text on our Civy stockings is: Full fashioned LISLE hose, first quality :D


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Thanks for helping me out.

So the ack ack girls and ATS provost were issued with the wollen ones.
But in the picture, are these the woollen or the Lisle ones..and do the Lisle ones have seames?

I don't think I can find genuine ATS stockings (and don't know if i would actualy wear them!) So best thing to wear on daytime service would be??!
( probabely just seamed stockings i think??)

sorry for asking but don't want to make a fool of myself on events LOL!

Is there more that i should be aware of when buying seamed stockings?So that i know i have the correct ones to use..


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miss-khaki wrote:
So the ack ack girls and ATS provost were issued with the wollen ones...


Yes, the woollen stockings were ADDITIONAL, so the Ack-Ack girls and ATS provosts would have 4 pairs of lisle and 3 pairs of woollen stockings.

miss-khaki wrote:
But in the picture, are these the woollen or the Lisle ones..and do the Lisle ones have seames?...


The stockings in the picture are the Lisle-stockings (=cotton), standard issue to all ATS personell in the UK. They DO have a seam at the back, but this is not very visable due to the thick material.

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I don't think I can find genuine ATS stockings (and don't know if i would actualy wear them!) So best thing to wear on daytime service would be??! ( probabely just seamed stockings i think??) ...


Originals are very hard to find ! Expect to pay a lot of money for an original wartime dated pair. Unless you got a rich boyfriend, I wouldn't recommend to wear them.

As I only collect these items AND DO NOT WEAR THEM (they are to small anyway!) :shock: , I cannot give you any tips for reenactment subsitutes.

Perhaps if you are lucky, you might be able to find white lisle stockings and dye them khakigreen yourselve.

GOOD LUCK !

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Lisle stockings are easy to find-they also last for ever if you treat them right and darn them correctly.
Seamed thin nylon stockings just don't look right. Officers perhaps got away with private purchase silk or georgette but for authenticity stick to lisle. They are remarkably cool in summer.
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The original wrens ones are a bit like wearing football socks though :P :lol:

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Miss Spitfire wrote:
Lisle stockings are easy to find-they also last for ever if you treat them right and darn them correctly.
Seamed thin nylon stockings just don't look right. Officers perhaps got away with private purchase silk or georgette but for authenticity stick to lisle. They are remarkably cool in summer.
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Ok I got the picture now..
Any tips about where to get the right lisle stockings?
Last question: What about parties and walking out, I often see girls
then wearing the seamed thin stockings...


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Yes where do you find lisle ones - I admit to struggling to find pairs for Waaf . I've got a couple but they're too short even with the bit I've added on the top.
So if you've got a ready source love to hear about it!


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Ok, company called Funn make lisle and even wool stockings like the original ATS ones. They are available from most john lewis stores and there's a uk distributor.


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http://www.funnhosiery.co.uk/ (website is useless!)

Lisle stockings will always be too short unless you wash them first in soap flakes, then fabric conditioner. Stretch them gently. You'll find they are easier to wear after that!
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