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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 13:53 pm 
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There were some very nice replica type 97 Japanese grenades at Beltring Not the usual resin or model grenade but actual properly made cast iron bodies with removable filler cap and fuze. Made exactly like the real thing.
Type 99 grenade ready for October i have been told. Contact www.Dugup.co.uk for details.


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i think i saw your the ones your talking about, they did look nice but abit pricey for me at the moment, especially for set dressing

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Agree with Ryan that they are a bit pricey for set dressing, (£45), but much less than an inert original.

They are made in the Phillipines, on original Mitsubishi machinery.

None of the ones on display at Beltring had the cover over the end of the fuse, and they wouldn't look 100% right with that part missing.


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I was chatting to the guy he said that the rest of the bits are going to be ready for October. For a complete grenade its going to be an extra fiver £50 in total. Yes pricey but worth it, like you say real ones were fetching £150-£170 at Beltring, not sure if that a Beltring price but when i compared mine i bought to a real one they were spot on. I did ask him if he knew what the grenade boxes looked like he said he was going to find out, do any of you guys know or have any info on Jap grenade boxes as i would like to knock up a few for our marine impression.


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think i'll stick to the ones i build for about 2 quid each :lol:

I did see a picture somewhere of a Japanese grenade box, i'll see if i can find it again for you

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Dam the pictures are gone, anyway it wasn't so much a box as a packing case, basicly it was 2 pieces of wood, about 5-6inches wide which had depressions carved into them for the grenades to rest in, about 5 of them in total, then the 2 pieces of wood were clamped together with some cord to keep it all together.

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The bloke selling the grenades said that the box he saw was a foot square holding more?


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I'd be surprised if the Japanese only had one way of transporting grenades, they have several ways for everything else.

This packing way that i described is the only way i've ever seen it being done but thats certainly not me saying it was the ONLY way it was done.

They must have had larger boxes of grenades, surely.

I think how ever you make the boxes they will be perfectly acceptable, as i very much doubt anyone in this country will be able to prove yours to be wrong.
Even if you just done a wooden box with a piece inside with holes cut out for the grenades to sit in would be fine.
The packing i've describe first that contained 5 grenades was probaly shipped to the front in larger boxes, then these smaller boxes would have been distributed to each man.

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It's funny how the British and the Americans had a standard type box. I am sure that there was a typical box for both types 99 and 97, after all they lugged quite a lot of equipment through the jungle to their destination of battle. I am sure that they didn't carry them lose in a bag as they would have deteriorated much quickly than in a proper boxed container. I am making enquiries on other forums that maybe able to help. Any idea what would be marked up on these boxes ie date, type of grenade makers name. What order would these markings be, was there a lot number system.


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the boxes may be similar to the ammunition boxes in style which can be seen in the background of the photo below.
Markings would probaly have been pretty basic, probaly justed marked up as a grenade box as the boxes may have be re-used time and again, remember the Japanese couldn't afford to waste any resources, they didn't have enough to start with anyway and in the end would probaly have just thrown them into any box they had handy at the time.

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Hopefully i will be getting some pics on some boxes, Keep you updated. So they are your nice toys in the picture. I bet the back one was very expensive where did you pick that beast up from.


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not mine yet unfortunatly, but they are on hold for when i want to buy them :D :D

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What is the big toy called on its tripod, I was thinking of making a gas gun of one. Can you get me some better photos of this wonderful piece.


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the HMG is the type 3, or the woodpecker as the allies called it.

I don't think it would make a good gas gun, would look abit odd as you couldn't hide the fact the rounds weren't being fed into the gun and its relatively slow rate of fire, not sure how that would sound being done in gas, as most of them seem to be of MG42's which you can hardly hear the individual rounds being fired

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Don't worry about the rate of fire, gas guns can be adjusted. If its not to complicated in looks I could make a blank firing one. So that's what its called a type 3 Heavy machine gun.


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yeah Type 3, its the arlier 6.5mm version. you should be able to find plenty of photos of it mate as it is about the most common one they used.

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