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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 19:17 pm 
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The Japanese used a number of different styles of body armour during ww2. There use appears to have been mainly by NLF troops, although there is a common misconception that its actually armour for Snipers but there is no evidence to support this view.

Most of the body armour sets weighed in at around 9 pounds and the steel was just a few mm thick giving it a very poor protection level, war time tests showed it was easily penetrated by .303 ball ammunition at a range of 100 yards with a 30 degree angle of impact.

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A rare surviving example of Japanese navy body armour

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The following couple of photos show the Japanese turtle shell armour, designed for use on beaches. Little is known about this style of armour and my sources in Japan have suggested this a pre war experiment that wasn't actually deployed in combat but who knows

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Wasn't this kind of amour useless? I mean steel plates?
It has got to be heavy and cumbersome, and in a humid and warm environment I can't really see myself carry steel plates.
Though the navy one makes more sense to me.
Didn't the Russians use something similar?

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It's interesting that those designs were used, bearing in mind the Samurai Armours, and the wonders of Silk.

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HaugM55q wrote:
Wasn't this kind of amour useless? I mean steel plates?
It has got to be heavy and cumbersome, and in a humid and warm environment I can't really see myself carry steel plates.
Though the navy one makes more sense to me.
Didn't the Russians use something similar?

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Pretty much, its only useful for low velocity shrapnel hits. war time tests showed it was easily penetrated by .303 ball ammunition at a range of 100 yards with a 30 degree angle of impact.

I've worn that set for a full weekend, and to be honest wearing it is not to much of a chore, 9 pounds is not particulary heavily and it may have had a positive psychological effect on the guy wearing it atleast

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HaugM55q wrote:

Didn't the Russians use something similar?

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Assault engineers had SN42 body armour. It was never intended to be bullet proof. It was only to offer protection from primary and secondary fragments while doing stuff like cutting wire during a bombardment. I'm wearing a repro set in this picture. http://gallery.me.com/nickcouldry#10018 ... olor=black

There are stories of guys wearing this armour taking sub machine gun hits at range and surviving. I'd imagine they'd be mightily bruised though! :D

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Frontovik wrote:
HaugM55q wrote:

Didn't the Russians use something similar?

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Assault engineers had SN42 body armour. It was never intended to be bullet proof. It was only to offer protection from primary and secondary fragments while doing stuff like cutting wire during a bombardment. I'm wearing a repro set in this picture. http://gallery.me.com/nickcouldry#10018 ... olor=black

There are stories of guys wearing this armour taking sub machine gun hits at range and surviving. I'd imagine they'd be mightily bruised though! :D


Ahhh I see... Well sub-machine-gun fire were "only" 9 mm Parabellum (if it was German sub machine-gun fire, and not some crazy officer shooting you because you have had enough, and decided to leave) But I can imagine they would be bruised afterwards ...

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Tanaka wrote:
HaugM55q wrote:
Wasn't this kind of amour useless? I mean steel plates?
It has got to be heavy and cumbersome, and in a humid and warm environment I can't really see myself carry steel plates.
Though the navy one makes more sense to me.
Didn't the Russians use something similar?

/Aleksander



Pretty much, its only useful for low velocity shrapnel hits. war time tests showed it was easily penetrated by .303 ball ammunition at a range of 100 yards with a 30 degree angle of impact.

I've worn that set for a full weekend, and to be honest wearing it is not to much of a chore, 9 pounds is not particulary heavily and it may have had a positive psychological effect on the guy wearing it atleast


Well we better not underestimate the psychological effect :wink:
Is it really only 9 pounds? How thick is it?
Hmm, but how would it feel to wear it under very humid conditions? Like a jungle environment?


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