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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:12 am 
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Its not that common to see any Soviets wearing fash footwear.

This could be because:

1) It was frowned upon (you like fascists da? *pok* *pok* *pok*)

2) Fash boots are worse than Soviet boots in those conditions

The only time you see them is with razvyedchiki, where they use them to not leave Soviet boot prints behind enemy lines...

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Interesting.

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Having done numerous winter Axis re-enactments I am well aware of the inferior nature of fascist boots. Sadly I'm also well aware of the trials and tribulations of trying to find original/repo boots that fit :(

Quoting my sole reference so far, the Anthony Beevor book has a section describing how Grossman was not allowed to go to the front without a pistol and having shown an ability to use it.


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Size 38:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Soviet-Russia ... 257a3f46d8

Size 39: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Soviet-Russia ... 257a8e3333

Size 38.5 doesn't exist.
These are both from the same seller in Latvia, i've bought several pairs off of him as have my friends. He is trusted.
All it took was a ebay search "soviet boots insertsizehere"

Those boots are for Ryadavoi Sostav (other ranks to us)
Here are officers variants, also in your sizes.
Size 39: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Retro-1968-So ... 232843edae

Size 38: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Sovie ... 2329352892

You're starting Soviet reconstruction after a period of great progress and upheaval. There are no longer any excuses for "captured" kit or "make do" kit. There are suppliers out there readily available to the west. The Red Army was an Army, not a circus as some reconstructors might have you believe.


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I thank you for your help. Boots now sorted.


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OK, heard back from my contact. :wink: There was no special insignia as there was, say, for kriegsberichters. They pretty much wore any branch of arms. So, for Obr35 August 41 to early 43 I'd just wear zaschitny tsvet (subdued) petlitis and for Obr43 early 43 to 45 I'd be tempted to wear zaschitny tsvet pogoni for technical troops - green field with black piping - and no branch of arms badge. Ranks seem to go from junior leader (NCO) upwards though there's at least one guy in these with no rank at all.

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Good research!

Did you find out though... were these folks from the Main Political Directorate? (on an organisational perspective)

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Andrei Kozlov wrote:
Good research!

Did you find out though... were these folks from the Main Political Directorate? (on an organisational perspective)


They'd be working for a news organ - Pravda, Isvestia, Krasnaya Zvezda, Okno-Tass, Whatever or a combination of course (incidentally our group name is the title of a wartime magazine so I can genuinely say that I'm working fror Za Oboronu :D ). They'd undoubtedly have a minder* at the very least and they seem to have predominantly worked in groups. Lone wolves, while not unknown, are uncommon.

*The photo of the ryadovoy sostav with a camera is so unusual because they weren't allowed cameras. Though I'm fairly sure he's the same guy badged up as a serzhant standing in front of the Manchuria sign. This is the main reason why I said domestic production would likely have been sufficient to provide a camera to everybody who needed one. That said I'm not about to argue there would have been no imported models at all or even, the ultimate get out for pokemon, captured ones. It's just lazy when you can get the right thing for a fraction of what will people pay for a gat. :)

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I'll repeat what I said about that last set of photos on the Red Army forum:
A lot of the cameras you see are actually Leica III-series cameras and not FED cameras. None of the Russian Leica copies had the slow-shutter-speed dials on the front. ;)

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True, never really looked for that.

So, where do you reckon all that domestic production went?

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And this shows them in all sorts of uniforms

War correspondents in the days of the battle for Moscow:
From the left to right:
Konstantin Simonov (Krasnaya Zvezda)
Viktor Temin (Krasnaya Zvezda)
Yevgeniy Kriger (Izvestia)
Iosif Utkin (Krasnaya Zvezda)

Are they Polkovnek insignia showing?


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I think it's three bricks and on the subdued form - Podpolkovnik. But the ones posted above show ranks like Serzhant, Starshina etc. Personally, I'll probably stick with an NCO rank or junior officer at the most. There's some big names there. Simonov is the guy who wrote this.

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I wasn't commenting on the rank as a way of justifying re-enacting such a high rank. I much prefer to blend into the background with EM/NCO if that is supported by the historical record.


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Comrade botty,

I would go with a Rank suitable for your age as you are a Technical profession, it would be part of a back story (once cleared with Moscow Centre) you would use as part of your Red Army legend. The Red Army has many sweet gags to be played if you get with the Soviet/Russian character of the period.

It is worth remembering an Ace of Frontal Aviation would have whole Regiments of Frontal Avation supporting him on combat missions, if you are a Big Man you are protected, but then you also make powerful Political friends and enemies so you will always have an interesting ( if sometimes short) career.. it is all part of being a Progressive Reconstructor we enjoy in the destruction of the Pit Viper Vandal Horde like Genosse BrianB :lol: .


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The bunkers are solidly constructed, the fields of fire are clear, the minefields are well sown, in this sector of the Front we are unshockable. :twisted:

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You just haven't been visited yet by the shock and awe of a frontal level artillery bombardment yet Genosse.

The very ground shall boil from the weight of the Red God of War! Urrah!

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