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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:25 am 
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Last Sunday at a carboot sale I bought a 1939 Pattern leather holster. I am wondering who used it. Karkeeweb says that '39 Pattern "does appear to have been deployed for training purposes only". I know the Home Guard used the bayonet frog, and sometimes the Basic Pouch. So is there any evidence of who used '39 Pattern, and in particular the holster. From memory, I think Home Guard officers used '37 Pattern holsters, but I would love to find a picture of one using a '39 Pattern holster!


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 6:51 am 
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There is a well known photograph of a Pioneer Corps unit marching past early in the war wearing full 39 pattern equipment but such pictures are very rare suggesting very little use.


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Thanks for that. I will try to find it.


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Its on this forum some where.


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I have one that belonged to a member of the Pioneer Corps. Diehl, Wilbur, F. 13092299. Very American sounding name is Wilbur. From what I have been told his serial no. is within a block of numbers that were used to camoflage German refugees, from the Middle East, as members of the Pioneer Corps. This would give them some protection as members His Majesty's armed forces if captured, while being transported to safer locales.

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Thanks for that Cobblers.


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This one ?

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Thanks very much! Interesting that the photo describes them as "undergoing military training". This agrees with Karkeeweb's comment that '39 pattern "does appear to have been deployed for training purposes only". In the photo you cannot see the belt, which must be halfway up the chest rather than round the waist - very uncomfortable! But still no holster...


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I have seen a film of the Green Howards training and I think they had P39 accoutrements. One of them at least had a P14 since he was struggling with the magazine stop during arms inspection, I guess no one told him about using a ha'penny to negate the mauser style mag. stop.

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Curiosity more than anything here ... but wouldn't it have been only Officers and SNCO's that wore a pistol .. if so, not surprising really that there isn't a holster in the picture, (that we can see anyway) ??

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Been a while since I did any real digging around P39 but I have in mind it was issued to Polish Battalions - does that ring any bells with anyone?


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Don't know about the Poles, but the West Africans got P39 gear, as well as the Czech Inde. Battalion though they seemed to have used cartridge carriers rather than the P39 basic pouches.

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