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 Post subject: Kepi Question
PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 8:27 am 
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Hi guys,

i hope you can help. What colour were the Kepi's worn by the Infantry of Leclerc's 2Db, for an Officer Rank Captain. Were they Khaki covered?

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 Post subject: Re: Kepi Question
PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 15:35 pm 
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Ok, a better question,

can anyone point me in the direction of a Kepi (Captain would be ideal but not absolute) for RMT size 59?

Thank you,
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:45 pm 
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Hi Cornelius,

a Captain of the RMT would wear a plain dark blue kepi, with a golden bullion anchor embroidered on the front, and 3 golden rank braids around the top. This is the model 1919 for Colonial Infantry officers.

Here is Capitaine Dronne, RMT, during the Liberation of Paris in August 1944:
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Originals are hard to come by in larger sizes (my head size is 59 too).
Here is a nice example, but size isn't mentioned:
http://histoire-collection.com/catalog_01.html
(Scroll down to a bit after the middle of the page to
"Képi CAPITAINE INFANTERIE COLONIALE
excellent état
130€")


Another one, but for a Lieutenant and only size 56-57:
http://www.militaria-medailles.fr/militaria-armee-francaise-39-45/4372-kepi-de-lieutenant-de-l-infanterie-coloniale-ou-infanterie-de-marine.html

Another solution could be to get a modern one.

Hope this helps,
Pierre

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 15:11 pm 
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Excellent Pierre, thank you for your reply.

i think a modern one is the way to go for me. Any ideas as to where i could get one?


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 17:03 pm 
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Kepis are usually made directly at the regimental tailor workshop, meaning they can take your measurments. The point with modern kepis is that, unlike wartime ones which were stiffened by an internal heavy fabric like hessian, they have a plastic sheet stiffening that doesn't adapt itself to your head shape.

In order to get a well-fitting kepi, you need your head size and the visor lenght. So a size 59 kepi can have a rounder shape (seen from above) or a more oval shape.

Here is as far as I know the only website that offers made to order kepis for all branches of service:
http://www.kepi.fr/cadre.asp
You will want a "Képi Troupes de Marine Grade Capitaine"
Code: KPTDM40-Kepi-TDM-Troupes-de-Marine-Capitaine
Then choose your head size associated with the visor lenght, measured from one temple to the other (15.5, 16 or 16.5 cm).

(Troupes de Marine has been the name of former Colonial Troops since 1962).

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You might be interested in a side cap too:
http://www.compagnie-des-uniformes.com/fr/uniforme-tenue-armee/f1-79-coiffes/f2-81-calots/id-27731-calot-tdm

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Excellent, thank you so much for your help.

I have the side cap :-), so i'll get the Kepi right away. Thanks again.

Regards,
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I like the idea of adding a Kepi to my assortment of hats. I am a size 57cm. There are three visor sizes. How would I know what visor length I would need?

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Pfc-Grunt wrote:
I like the idea of adding a Kepi to my assortment of hats. I am a size 57cm. There are three visor sizes. How would I know what visor length I would need?


Using a measure tape, 2 cm above the eyebrows (that's where the visor stands), measure the length between your temples above the sideburns. Here are some examples of modern kepis showing where the visor ends.

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Adjudant, Infanterie de Marine

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Brigadier-chef, 1er Régiment de Tirailleurs

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Colonel, Zouaves

Hope this helps!

conosullivan wrote:
Excellent, thank you so much for your help.

I have the side cap :-), so i'll get the Kepi right away. Thanks again.

Regards,
Con


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