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I have been inspired to open a thread after reading from another in the airborne section....

Due to people coming and going from the UK group and seeing diferent impressions here and overseas, I have decided to open a thread on the rights and wrongs of the FSSF impression....I'll throw my hands up :arrow: some of which I have been guilty (not saying wot though).....

to kick off...

Airborne gloves...Didn't wear them...

Original mountain parkas with ruined wolf fur (oh and someone actually tried to sell me a parka with faux fur....Ahhhhahahahaha)...

modern crossed arrows on Class A..."modern" ones (from the sixties upwards) come in two pieces, the arrows detach from the dics....The orignal wartime ones are a one piece, the arrows are also smaller..

Pointy garrison hats...NOT the wartime ones, the post war ones...No need to add here..

Scrim nets...didn't wear them...

Green mountain rucks...Late war, VERY slim chance of being issued in southern France...

Herringbone shirt and trousers...for some odd reason can't find any reference to them wearing them, only the HBT overalls in training in Helena, and on the Aluetians...

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Good job! Keep it sensible as I'll make this a sticky like the Airborne one.

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PS You may want to add some reasons why things are wrong for some of the above.

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OD7 Rucksacks were issued.....in small numbers to state side troops,The 10th mtn had a few but had more m1943 packs...They landed in italy after the force went to SF...you will not see a od7 rucksack dated before 43 or after..they were issued in the early part of nam.
You will see more YUKON pack boards in italy than rucksacks,This is due to the amount of different bits of kit that needed to be humped up hills making rucksacks not popular.

There is a pic in s/cmdos of a forceman in m1938 coveralls in italy,2 piece hbt fitigues were not officially on the mto unit roster[there would have been some aquired],You do see some units still with blue denims but more so men in wools..but never say never.


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Wearing to many combat accessories . Knuckle Knives and Grease Guns. I have as yet not seen any Forceman using either. Class A jackets smothered with decorations not issued to the wearer.Combat Infantryman awards on Canadian Forcemens class A s. Last but not least my pet hate of all time Bloody Trouser Blousers. The nice green things with the little brass hooks,so cool,wow, yeah,I mean so 1980s.

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Now for a positive post! Spielberg has n't made a film about the Force so we are not swamped with mini-series t**** who have seen the film and know everything about the Force.I feel sorry for the Airborne units.How do you cope with them ? All people who come our way have a genuine interest in a little known outfit.We now as then look-out for each other , yes we argue an bitch amongst ourselves ,but at face to face level not behind each others backs. Our research is ongoing,many" facts" from books Paul tries to get the Vets to confirm. as so many "facts" in books are someones opinion rather than actual.
Yes nice to belong to the group. Well of for a few in BazookaBar.

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Unfortunately many people interpret the status of this unit as airborne, mountain etc meaning you can wear whichever pieces and parts of the above that you wish. I know this is the case for one group in the US.

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Unfortunately many people interpret the status of this unit as airborne, mountain etc meaning you can wear whichever pieces and parts of the above that you wish. I know this is the case for one group in the US.

MAJ Tim


Yeah...Seen this aswell mate...

However, one must be carefull of the time period...

Also, one can be over dressed.... :wink:


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Rank on the back of the helmet...

Basing your impression on Osprey book....

M43 Long (guilty as charged)...

Wearing Class A without lanyard (seen it done)...


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"M43 Long"? What do you mean by that one, Paul?

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Sorry to reattack this post but I need some informations on the webbing ...
Is it common to find Canadian's equipement on a American or Canadian fssf ? (like small pack, light gas mask or camouflaged scarf, ranks and ...)
I'm more and more interesting by this unit so ...
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Rank on class A for a short time with the canucks...The rest NO!!!


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Bilko wrote:
Rank on class A for a short time with the canucks...


hum... i love it ! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

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Wearing the mountain rucksack "on patrol", it was not used for that, only to cart all your gear around from one base camp to another, if you where walking, otherwise left in a dump to be collected and taken to next Bivouac by tranport, but worn on patrol, no :roll:

C ration keys in the helmet band, it is a mistake to think all Forcemen done this, the only photographic evidence for this is from a photo shoot of one afternoon in the mountains of the Majo Hump by Bob Capa of one unit within the Force :wink:

La Difensa and pre Anzio period, M43, mountain parkas, and mountain trousers...
Anzio, all different, and starting to score the helmet with mud etc...Darkened faces...
Southern France, in particular the Franco/Italian border, another mixture with some addition of German stolen items (but not worn in combat), M42 unreinforced, beards, berets, etc...

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ohh look, they got dirty faces ... They say imitation is the best form of flattery ... Done it in 2002 with cries of "hey, did ye no wash yer face this morning"

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FearDark wrote:
Sorry to reattack this post but I need some informations on the webbing ...
Is it common to find Canadian's equipement on a American or Canadian fssf ? (like small pack, light gas mask or camouflaged scarf, ranks and ...)
I'm more and more interesting by this unit so ...
Thanks guys ;)


"small pack".No..
"light gas mask" No...
"camouflaged scarf"...No...
"ranks"..Bilko answered that...

British Tommy cooker found on La Difensa, just around 100 yards from the saucer, in the direction of Rematanea in a mortar pit...How come?...Gray's battalion had contact with the British Guards around Camino, draw your own conclusions...

M43 long mentioned earlier:
"5. Specification PQD 370-C ((October 11 1943)
-18 sizes available, three lengths, Short, Regular and Long."

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ohh look, they got dirty faces ... They say imitation is the best form of flattery ... Done it in 2002 with cries of "hey, did ye no wash yer face this morning"

Strange, they only post in my threads when it's controversial, seems they want to vent their spleens whilst claiming victimhood ; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEwVpWFyy3M


"I don't use the pozi net ,because there are too many left wing oversensitive retards on there..."

"I reflect on the infamous 1987 photograph by American artist Andres Serrano that depicts a crucifix submerged in a glass of the artist's urine. I remember all the leftists that jeered and mocked me, and many Christians like me, for being bruised by that photograph (the title of which I would rather not verbalize). They scoffed and told us to get a life. These are the same people today, unsurprisingly, who are stridently arguing for curtailment of free speech not to offend Muslims."


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SaddleTramp wrote:
M43 long mentioned earlier:
"5. Specification PQD 370-C ((October 11 1943)
-18 sizes available, three lengths, Short, Regular and Long."


Yeah, so what's wrong with it?

Cheers,
Glen.

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