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 Post subject: Spigot mortar box
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 13:41 pm 
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Haworth HG have this spare and they are thinking of selling.

As far as they are aware it is original but they have no idea of a value, anyway opinions sought and offers too, thanks

(ps; I posted here as it is item specific .. !!)


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Very nice. Sort of thing we would love, but...


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... but ... ??? :) ...

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I have one of those too If anyone is interested...

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... oi .. use your own advertising space .. :D :wink:

Do you have an idea of a value to these Andy ??

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oooo kaaay ... !!!

I emailed one of the HG members handling this, ... this was his reply ..

Hi Allen,

That's great news. We need confirmation from Gordon, but we could be looking at a value of £120-£180.
He'll let us know.


Don't shoot the messenger, Im just passing it on, I would though be interested in feedback and thoughts on this.

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But... I can't justify spending the money. I will be meeting up with the other guys of our HG unit next Saturday, I'll ask them about it (if it hasn't gone by then).


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Three us us should be at Stoneleigh, I think they will bring it with them although they would rather sell privately.

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I like this but funds are tight! - would any sort of p/ex be feasible? Course, it depends what you might be looking for..


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When these come up on ebay, they go for around the £80-£85 mark.

I've only ever seen one with all the tools/mallett etc in it.

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Hi Austin, passed the message on, got this back;

Hi Allen
The boxes that I have seen recently were spigot mortar fuze boxes and they went for about 80-90 pounds. The ammo box that i saw went for about 165 or therabouts but that was a couple of years ago. It may be worthwhile seeing what the chappie has and then make offers of trade.
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Im assuming then there is a difference between the fuze boxes, ammo boxes and tool boxes for the Spigot Mortar .. ??

Ian, as you can see they are open to part ex ... I guess its a question of what have you got? .. I did ask them if there was anything they needed but they didn't respond to that bit ..!!

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Ther 'ammo boxes' are actually cardboard tubes for the mortar rounds - rather like larger, individual mortar tubes. I've only ever seen one for sale - containing a de-ac 29mm AT spigot round - and that went for silly money: around £500, if I remember rightly, about 5 years ago.

This tool box had things such as a mallet for hammering in the leg pegs.

As I recall, the 'fuze boxes', were small tin boxes for the launching cartridges and nose fuze.

The best repro (in fact, one of the few there is/was) was made by the late Dave Bygraves (d. 2008). You can see the cardboard tubes here:

https://www.home-guard.org.uk/hg/spigot.html

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Had a quick search and only found one of these that has been sold (recently) ... and that was July last year and it went for £70 plus, no idea of condition as such..??

I freely admit I know very little about these .. (I'm learning though) :) ... just acting as a go between for Haworth HG group .. its the monthly social on Wednesday, I will ask some questions then ... in the meantime as I say, they are willing to part ex, so if you are interested ... what have you got .. ??

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LEI-12-HG wrote:
Ther 'ammo boxes' are actually cardboard tubes for the mortar rounds - rather like larger, individual mortar tubes. I've only ever seen one for sale - containing a de-ac 29mm AT spigot round - and that went for silly money: around £500, if I remember rightly, about 5 years ago.

This tool box had things such as a mallet for hammering in the leg pegs.

As I recall, the 'fuze boxes', were small tin boxes for the launching cartridges and nose fuze.

The best repro (in fact, one of the few there is/was) was made by the late Dave Bygraves (d. 2008). You can see the cardboard tubes here:

https://www.home-guard.org.uk/hg/spigot.html


I can't remember what we used for that tube actually. I *want* to say the tube in the photo is actually a real one. The bomb I *think* was something Dave made himself - he was VERY good.

(BTW, happy memories - that's me on the right manning the Spigot :D)

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I think we did have one original deact bomb and Dave used that to make the copies.

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