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 Post subject: 1920s Tommy Guns?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 13:03 pm 
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Hey guys!

After watching an episode of Dads Army (Bad start to a conversation I know) Its come to my attention that "Pike" used the 1920s Variant of Tommy Gun.

Is this right? Did the Home Guard use these weapons?

Just food for thought? :D

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Most definatly.


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Waw! Thats amazing! Thank you for the source :D

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what do you mean by "1920s variant"

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lordduvet wrote:
what do you mean by "1920s variant"


because there was the model 19, 20, 21, 23 etc....

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lordduvet wrote:
what do you mean by "1920s variant"

m1921 or m1928?

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I was referring to the general design of the peacetime 20s Tommy as opposed to the M1A1 or other variants produced during wartime. I didn't realise military units used the older versions of the Thompson.

Thanks for the help guys! :D

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The regular British Army used the M1928A1 widely in WW2... it was the only SMG used in North Africa for example.

The LDV/Home Guard were the first British troops to get them though - the Army initially thought they were a rubbish "gangsters weapon". Opinions changed, the Home Guard lost them to the Army...

I believe some of the first ones issued to the Home Guard were actually from a shipment meant for the IRA that had been seized in transit...

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Waw!! Thank you :D thats fantastic bit of info!

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The first IRA ones were 1921's. And the first ones the British Army got actually belonged to the French

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Yes, 1921's from the initial IRA shipment, then supplemented with some additional stuff from USA.

Seeing a 1921 in LDV/HG use is quite rare, but you can find them if you look hard

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first ones in British army hands were issued to the 51st highlanders in France prior to the battle of France....

hey actually liked them and asked for more

unfortunately the request was delayed by the fall of France and loss of the division

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Tommys liked by the Jocks! theres a first ;) . that's a good bit of info there cheers :)

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This is an excellent little piece on IRA Thompsons:

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013 ... g-ireland/

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