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 Post subject: M1917 rifles
PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:36 am 
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Have seen a picture of Dutch resistance with M1917's but have sources quoting the M1917 being issued to dutch forces. Anyone any ideas? Far east maybe or the troops the USMC trained?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:43 am 
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US M1917 rifles? Air dropped surely?

I know that some were dropped to the resistance here in Denmark, so I'd guess at it being the same in the Netherlands.

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yes thats the pic i have in the WW2 data file book. But was wondering what the Dutch Marines and East indies army got only pic I've seen is of Johnson M1941's

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 14:17 pm 
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Pre-War private purchase ? ?
Bonnie and Clyde had one.... :roll:

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:48 am 
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The Johnson wasn't designed till 1939. It was ordered by the Dutch for the East Indies army and hadn't left US by time japanese invaded. thats were the USMC got theirs from

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Ah the Johnson, Sorry I thought you was talking about the BAR :oops: ..

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did like clyde barrows modifications to the BAR

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Coincidentally, I was looking through the Standard Catalog of Military Firearms (edited by Philip Peterson) the other night, and I saw something I had never noticed before. Apparently, there was a Dutch-made rifle called the M1917 that was essentially an 8mm version of the Dutch M95 rifle. It was made at Hembrug, and was commonly called the "machinegunner rifle" because it used the same 8mm round that was also used in the Dutch Schwartzlose and Vickers machine guns.

I have never seen one of these rifles (I have no idea how many were even made), but I would love to see how it compares to the standard 6.5mm M95 rifle.

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