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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 12:41 pm 
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Hi,

Does anybody have have any information or photos of the type or armbands worn by the Dutch resistance during OMG in Sptember.

I am putting together a civilian impression for our trip over this September for the 65th commerations.

what I have so fare:

black brouge shoes
black cord trouses
white colorless shirt
black waist coat
black tibly hat

any other help or advice welcomed.

regerds

Mark

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 23:29 pm 
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Here a few Dutch who did some volunteer work for the British at Arnhem. Not all of them were members of the resistance. The soldier on the right is a Dutch commando who was attached to the British 1st airborne Div..
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One of them told he received a small British flag for identification and an orange armband with in black the word ORANJE (One of the "official" resistance armbands) When he met a Dutch commando he was given a thompson with drum magazine.

The duties of the volunteers: bringing walking wounded to aid posts / hospitals.
Collecting members of the Dutch nazi party. Digging trenches, fox holes. Collecting (mis) dropped suplies. And all kind of work that they were asked for.

This Dutch group, estimated between 15-25 men, most were armed with german rifles, were called "Oranje bataljon = Orange battalion". When the battle started to turn bad their commander (A Dutch naval officer escaped from Colditz hidden in Oosterbeek, went to the Division HQ wen in Hartenstein) decided to disband the group. (Wednesday) Some decided to stay with the British. The next day the British asked for volunteers to try to get to the bridge at Arnhem. These turned in their armbands and all things that could connect them to the British. Even their precious cigarettes!
Six of them tried, with a written message hidden in their shoes, but non of them managed to get further than the area of Elisabeth hospital.
The decision was made to return to Hartenstein but the intense battle prevented this.

Several other Dutch helped unofficially. I have read a story of one who helped a unit as a guide and soldier, was asked to leave when the battle turned bad. He refused and for his own safety was given a British uniform. This also happend to a Dutch women who worked in Hartenstein.

A British soldier kept half of an armband in the colours of the Dutch flag with orange embroided letters the word ORANJE. The other half is buried together with a friend of his now resting in Oosterbeek.

All adults were obliged to carry a PB / persoonsbewijs= identity card.
This card is from a women born and living in a city called Heerlen (code H 40)
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A card from a man a village Genemuiden.: The colour of this PB is the colour as it should be.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 6:46 am 
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Would love to know more about the Dutch woman working at the Hartenstein.

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Hello Jimmy E,

I am interested to know your source for your post,

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I'd also imagine that the ORANJE armbands were "stamped" on the side, like red cross ones (to prove that the person was actually a member of the resistance and not just an opportunist who had just made himself an armband). This is certainly what you see on Belgian resistance ones.

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There is/was one in Hartenstein Hotel found by Philip Reinders at Kate Ter horst garden, a couple of years ago


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Hi Saw 4 or 5 differnet types in a museum while over in Holland this year will try and find the pics.


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found a photograph I took in the museum


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Rordog95 is correct, the actual Real Dutch resistance wore a blue and orange stripped armband, no official stamp on it, simply the word 'ORANJE' on it, didn't look official at all, later on once the Allies had basically liberated Holland most jumped on the band wagon, then Orange colour armbands were issued, these had official stamps on them.

A very good Dutch military historian told me that even Dutch (German Collaborators) wore the Orange armband to try to avoid being found out. If I were to portray this then go for the Blue / Orange ones in the photos above, much more accurate.


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Thanks everybody only just seen these being updated.

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Sorry if this sounds like a silly question but, why would some of the armbands be post-war?


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