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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 12:15 pm 
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Can anybody tell me what colour the 1940 Netherlands Army uniforms were? I've just read The Colditz Story, where Dutch uniforms were converted into German ones, so I presume it was a similar shade to Feldgrau, but the few pictures I've seen show a greener shade. Which is correct?

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The KNIL was our Dutch army in the Indies, their uniform was green so I asume they didnt use those in Colditz;
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The regular Dutch uniform up tp may 1940 was indeed grey, you'll find everything about those uniforms here;
http://www.leger1939-1940.nl/Uniform/start_uniform.htm

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Please note that most of the Dutch POW´s (Royal Neth. Navy excepted) where NOT taken prisoner during battles.
Soon after the surrender of the Netherlands in 1940 all POW´s were released free as an sign of German goodwill.
In 1941, when the first acts of resistance became a fact, all the Dutch officers where forced to sign a "non-agressional / pro Germany" statement at the local German H.Q..
Many officers turned up in full (pre-war) uniform, including greatcoats and blankets. They refused to sign the statement, and where send (again) to a POW-camp.

As many KNIL-officers where taking an officers-course (or where on leave) in the Netherlands during the German invasion, they where forced to sign the statement too, or ended up as POW.

The majority of the Dutch prisoners where from these 3 services :

- Royal Netherlands Navy : they wear a dark blue / black uniform, very similar to the British Royal Navy.

- Royal Netherlands Army : they wear the pre-war service dress in a light blue/gray "whipcord" wool fabric. It has standing collars with rank-indication on the collar. No insignias on the epaulettes where worn.
As the pre-war airforce was an part of the army (like the Americans) they wore the same uniforms.

- Royal Netherlands Indonesian Army (KNIL) : They wear the junglegreen uniforms (as pictured on the previous message, centre person with cap) with flat laying collars.

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naaficook wrote:
In 1941, when the first acts of resistance became a fact,


There were resistance acts before this date though, resistance started the day Holland was invaded.
But it started small and slow, when things got out of hand the germans thought of putting our men back in prison camps.

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all the Dutch officers where forced to sign a "non-agressional / pro Germany" statement at the local German H.Q..
Many officers turned up in full (pre-war) uniform, including greatcoats and blankets. They refused to sign the statement, and where send (again) to a POW-camp.


I thought this was may 1942.
In april 1943 all remaining Dutch soldiers were ordered back into POW-ship, a great boost for the resistance as many refused, went into hiding and thus became involved in the resistance if they didnt already.

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Nice info marloes!

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The Dutch uniform is very closed in colour to German Field Grey. I used it with a very little white added when painting Dutch figures. Try to browse to amazon.com and you will see different uniforms.

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when did the KNIL start wearing Jungle green?

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As far as 1940 uniform in Europe, please see attached scan.

The kepi is for a warrant officer, artillery, and is of officer-quality whipcord.

The shoulder board is slightly more grey, than green, with bullion numbers: great coat ? infantry ?
Amongst the collar insignia, the curved propeller is marked Stokes (Melbourne) so could be KNIL.

The enammelled wings were made in the U.K by Toye and co.

Pre-war, the bullion version of the pilot wings was more common.


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