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PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 14:47 pm 
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What with all the recent changes could anyone tell me if it would be possible to take a Denix Sten to Arnhem this year with AFRA membership paperwork. We will be taking the tunnel, so will be traveling through both France and Belgium to get to Holland.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 14:59 pm 
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You should be fine, Denix weapons are replicas and therefore have never been a weapon in the first place, escaping legislation that pertains firearms or deactivated firearms. To be sure, transport it in a locked container with any written proof or certificate that you have that it is a replica only.

Last but not least, this is only what I recall off of the top of my head. Be certain to souble-check with the Gendarmerie Nationale and the corresponding Belgian authorities. If you are in period uniform anyway, they should not bother with supecting you of wanting to create any mischief.


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Replica weapons are under all circumstances prohibited in The Netherlands!!


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Oh my! I thought that Germany was terrible already... Thank you for your input and for correcting me.


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earlymb wrote:
Replica weapons are under all circumstances prohibited in The Netherlands!!

I know the Dutch are incredibly strict, but for the last two years at least, I personally have seen loads of De-acts mounted or carrier on vehicles during
the race to the bridge...


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Hi cdfw

Denix are not allowed in the Netherlands. As said by earlymb, replica's are prohibited.

Are you are the ABWO-camp or the Renkum Heath camp? If not, don't bring any weapons as you are not on their list.
If yes, please ask your organisation for rules and regulations, they hold the permit for carrying weapons from the Council, and they can tell you what can be done. But as said replica's are not allowed.

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Hi .303
Thanks for the reply and yes we are booked with ABWO again this year. I will have to send Ramon a message with the details. I must say I am also slightly worried about bringing it back into the UK. Will AFRA membership paperwork suffice at the chunnel?


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cdfw wrote:
earlymb wrote:
Replica weapons are under all circumstances prohibited in The Netherlands!!

I know the Dutch are incredibly strict, but for the last two years at least, I personally have seen loads of De-acts mounted or carrier on vehicles during
the race to the bridge...


There is a difference between de-acts and replica's. De-acts are fine if booked in via the proper procedure with the organization and with the proper paperwork; realistic replica weapons are forbidden without exception.


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Hi .303 and earlymb
Thanks for the replies and yes we are booked with ABWO again this year. I will have to send Ramon a message with the details. I must say I am also slightly worried about bringing it back into the UK. Will AFRA membership paperwork suffice at the chunnel?


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Don't know the UK laws on weapons.
I've seen replica Vickers-K too, but if the police act according to the law, then you have problem galore.

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Chris, i would'nt bother taking one across mate to be honest.

It's more agg than it's worth and to be fair it's not really the place or event for carrying weapons.
It's a commemorative event rather than a living history so there are very few weapons on show other than on vehicles on the race to the bridge event on the saturday.

My advice, leave them at home and just go across and enjoy the commemorations and pay your respects to the lads who didn't come back and if chance permits, shake hands with any surviving veterans.

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Jonny wrote:
Chris, i would'nt bother taking one across mate to be honest.

It's more agg than it's worth and to be fair it's not really the place or event for carrying weapons.
It's a commemorative event rather than a living history so there are very few weapons on show other than on vehicles on the race to the bridge event on the saturday.

My advice, leave them at home and just go across and enjoy the commemorations and pay your respects to the lads who didn't come back and if chance permits, shake hands with any surviving veterans.


What he said.

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cdfw wrote:
Hi .303
Thanks for the reply and yes we are booked with ABWO again this year. I will have to send Ramon a message with the details. I must say I am also slightly worried about bringing it back into the UK. Will AFRA membership paperwork suffice at the chunnel?


Got a new UK-EU spec deac?

If not, it will be taken off of you (probably on return to the UK) and you will be in trouble.

Don't bother taking it, for this and all the other reasons in this thread.

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Andrei Kozlov wrote:
cdfw wrote:
Hi .303
Thanks for the reply and yes we are booked with ABWO again this year. I will have to send Ramon a message with the details. I must say I am also slightly worried about bringing it back into the UK. Will AFRA membership paperwork suffice at the chunnel?


Got a new UK-EU spec deac?

If not, it will be taken off of you (probably on return to the UK) and you will be in trouble.

Don't bother taking it, for this and all the other reasons in this thread.



Goodness me, I did not even think of that. Any reason is good enough for these jokers and every opportunity to take away your things seized...


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It's called "breaking da law"

It's a perfectly good reason.

Stick to travelling with live weapons. It's legal

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Even with the new 'EU' certificate, BIS were proposing the need for a BIS licence, to bring something already in free circulation, back into the U.K. Sounds like a fine Home Oblast horlicks.

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