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 Post subject: Granatenwerfer 16
PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 12:07 pm 
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Not a WW2 question, but can anyone confirm please the level of deactivation you would expect to see on one of these WW1 trench Mortars. The bomb slides on over the tube and a firing pin ignites a charge similar to a shot gun cartridge to blow it off.


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 Post subject: Re: Granatenwerfer 16
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Or you could ask the Proof Houses what work would be required for them to certify it as deactivated:

The Worshipful Company of Gunmakers of the City of London,
The Proof House,
48 Commercial Road,
London,
E1 1LP
Telephone: 020 7481 2695
Fax: 020 7480 5102

The Guardians of the Birmingham Proof House,
The Gun Barrel Proof House,
48 Banbury Street,
Birmingham,
B5 5RH
Telephone: 0121 643 3860
Fax: 0121 643 7872

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My guess would be to mangle the firing pin mechanism somehow then put a ridge of weld on the tube (or maybe a hardened steel pin drilled across and welded in) so that a bomb cannot be slotted over the launching spigot.

Similar effect to how a mortar or RPG is chopped.

With all of that being external though its going to look a proper pigs breakfast, which is a shame on a historical piece like this.

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is it a lethal barrelled weapon?

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It would be done the same way as a PIAT.


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ok.

where do the new regulations describe spigot mortars or PIATs ?

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Andrei Kozlov wrote:
My guess would be to mangle the firing pin mechanism somehow then put a ridge of weld on the tube (or maybe a hardened steel pin drilled across and welded in) so that a bomb cannot be slotted over the launching spigot.

Similar effect to how a mortar or RPG is chopped.

With all of that being external though its going to look a proper pigs breakfast, which is a shame on a historical piece like this.



Someone else was trying to tell me that a bomb would not be able to be fitted once the work had been done. This launcher would be over 100 years old and very rare. To ruin like that would be vandalism.


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Well, without mangling a round, you can't stick a round into an RPG7 either... probably have to the same somehow.

But I agree it would be a shame to do this to an obscure WW1 piece like his.

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