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Blimey Smudger!
How interesting!
That plane is such a deusy!
Nice to know someone with such a famous cousin!
I dont have any famous family members but I did meet Duke Ellington in april 1939 when he visited The Hague.
He was trying a bicycle!
He arrived at the station around the corner and my late husband who was a much bigger music fan then I was dragged me to the station to meet his hero.
We were lucky, very few people knew about him arriving there and my husband was so excited that the Duke himself noticed him and me and was very happy to chat to us for a short time.
He laughed that my husband had brought one of the Dukes records and the Duke signed it, we all laughed when the Duke noticed the little things my husband had written on the record cover; brilliant, fantastic, remarks like that.
My husband was a bit emberrased.
He shook my hands and because my English was much better then Michiels, I did most of the talking.
As soon as the duke heard that we had no luck getting tickets for his concert he made sure one of his workers got us tickets!
I guess he was very happily suprised to see fans waiting for him in the little city of The Hague in the little country of Holland.
He is a very nice gentleman with an amazing smile and of course the concert was fantastic.

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Hi Gents, Miss........I couldn't help but overhear....The names Eddie I'm an Infantryman in the British army..

Ah yes, Duke Ellington now that bloke produces some good jazz music.....can't say I've ever had the pleasure of meeting him though, Got a few of his songs on 78'rpm though....

I do like my music back home in London, been to a few smashing dances....when I got leave from the Army I used to go to 'The cafe de Paris' down the west end, on coventry street. Some great music there, I used to watch Ken "Snakehips" Johnson and His West Indian Orchestra play, that's where I met the wife actualy....

The cafe de paris was quite a small little club.....had a long steep staircase leading down to a small dancefloor, only big enough for a few of us to get onto.... actualy felt quite honoured when we did..... I remember thinking this place must be safe whenever there was an air raid on!

However that wasn't a correct assumption, The Luftwaffe managed to drop a bomb down the airshaft in March '41...... 30 people killed amongst 'em was Ken, only 26 and his Tenor Sax Dave williams went with him, bloody shame.....But that's war for you I suppose....


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Hello Eddie,

Nice to meet you, dont worry about bombs in this bar, its neutral.
I think I have heard some of Kens music, but im not sure.
But its always sad when a musician die, they are one of the few people left in this world who actually bring hapiness in stead of death and grief.

In the early days of my marriage (I got married in 29) my husband made some advertisement drawings for Philips, the famous electrica company here in holland.
There he made some friends who had connections in music and they started sending him records now and then, records often difficult to find here in Holland.
Ever since he jumped and danced trough our house, he loved jazz music, especially hot jazz.
I like most of it but some is a bit too fast for me.
When I moved to Amsterdam in 1941 the attic of our old house was full with my husbands records, I never got around to taking them with me.
Right now here in Holland music is not that exciting, the Germans have a a thing against proper music it seems and now they are trying to outlaw jazz, swing, hot jazz and everything...well everything they simply dont understand.
Some of the most famous bands here are very smart at fooling the Germans though, they play american swing big band music but change the title and a few notes and then all of a sudden the Germans allow it!
While everyone knows its a glenn miller tune or something like that!
Last month I was in a bar in Amsterdam with a small band who couldnt resist playing a jazzy tune, the audience loved it and soon we had a party there, very hot!
But then a few german soldiers walked in, young boys really.
Quickly the band started playing acceptable music...but to our suprise the soldiers asked the band to play hot jazz again!
They loved it!
Things got even better, one of them joined the band and played guitar almost as good as Django Reinhardt!
Everyone was enjoying themselves, we almost forgot about the war.
But then some WA men walked in, Dutch nazis.
They were very angry and started hitting people (even women!) and shouting.
But then one of the germans, a officer or something, ordered them to leave right away, that made an impression!
Soon they left and our party continued.
A great night.
The officer later told me that he had his gramaphone transported to the east front and that he and some of his friends actually played real american jazz records right there in the cornfields of russia!
I can just see it, German soldiers jumping up and down in the corn to wild negro music!
And the russian partisans laughing and walking away shaking their heads in stead of shooting at them!
The soldiers also told me about a soldiers concert in Germany, the band were the famous Ramblers.
They played nice schlagers but the soldiers got mad at them!
They demanded Swing and when the band didnt dare play it the soldiers started throwing things at them!
Anyway, they promised to come back to the bar but they never did, later I heard they were send back to the eastfront.

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One of the guys who joined post 39 was saying that Lord Londonderry had German house guests at the weekend who flew into the aerodrome on the estate his kid brother used to help get them into and out of the planes.
I remember seeing some of the Imperial flying boats at southampton I think they were built by shorts.

Got a bit cut of from all that in India but Jazz is prity good. Heard about the Hindenburgh whilst trudging the NW frontier.

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I found this Russian WW2 music, apparently they liked swing as well:


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I found this Russian WW2 music, apparently they liked swing as well:


Very nice!
Im dancing trough the room.
Could you tell us a bit more?
Who are the artists, when was the tune recorded, etc?

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Actually I don´t know, I found it on a website with lots of Russian WW2 (and some postwar) music.
http://english.sovmusic.ru/

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Actually I don´t know, I found it on a website with lots of Russian WW2 (and some postwar) music.
http://english.sovmusic.ru/

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What a Glorious site!
Lots of lovely music, some spanish civil war songs there as well.
Delicious, download heaven!

"A small boy writes a letter to marshal Klim Voroshilov and swares to fight for the Motherland
Music by: P. Akulenko Lyrics by: L. Kvitko Singer: N. Kutuzov 1938"

Hurrah!

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If you want Spanish Civil War songs, I´ve got a whole load of them (Republican only though) as MP3s as well as some stuff on vinyl.
Also songs from the British, American and German labour movement (early 20th century).

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We lived trough some interesting times, most of us remember seeing their first plane, listening to a radio for the first time, etc.
This thread is all about the special memories we have of the years before the war.

What is the first moving picture you have ever seen?

In the winter of 1921 my parents took me to the small cinema theater Asta, there I saw 'De Zwarte tulp'; \The Black tulip.
A historical drama about the time when tulips were worth a fortune and someone tried to create a black version.
The film was shot in my hometown and it was magic to see places I knew very well brought back to the 17th century.
I think it was a English or American production, it was romantic and political but I didnt get much of all that, I was only 9.
Ever since though I had a passion for history and movies.

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In my case that would be 'Duck Soup', by Laurel & Hardy in 1927, when I took my little brother for his birthday treat... Until then I had always spent more time with my head in a book, though.

After the film, I chatted with the projectionist. It turned out he was a fellow socialist, and later that year I was privileged to join him and a clandestine group of comrades for a special showing of Eisenstein's 'October (Ten Days that Shook the World)'.

We could have got arrested for that, but no-one else knew, we spent the early hours of the morning behind locked doors in the tiny cinema, the air was soon filled with smoke and much excited debate after the film ended, I can tell you!

In those heady but dangerous days you learned to keep your politics quiet in England. Today we fight for freedom for the world, and when the war ends, we shall be truly free, I hope.

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We lived trough some interesting times, most of us remember seeing their first plane, listening to a radio for the first time, etc.
This thread is all about the special memories we have of the years before the war.

What is the first moving picture you have ever seen?

In the winter of 1921 my parents took me to the small cinema theater Asta, there I saw 'De Zwarte tulp'; \The Black tulip.
A historical drama about the time when tulips were worth a fortune and someone tried to create a black version.
The film was shot in my hometown and it was magic to see places I knew very well brought back to the 17th century.
I think it was a English or American production, it was romantic and political but I didnt get much of all that, I was only 9.
Ever since though I had a passion for history and movies.

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Smudger I had no idea you were a comrade!
My parents and I have been members of the Socialist Democratic Workers party for ages and my husband had many communists friends.
My best friend Kitty is a communist as well and we have many discussions.
I have never seen the film 'October' but we did hear about it and talked about it.

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The first film I saw - Papirosnitsa ot Mosselproma (The Cigarette Girl from Mosselprom) in Kiev with Irina Timofeyeva before we were married.

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Yes Miss Joeri,

My dear old dad was a coal miner, and his father before him, and his before him. After the Great War, and the Russian revolution, there was a feeling of something new in the air, and interest in socialist ideals began to spread. The revolution alarmed the establishment but created a mood for change over here that has been quietly (and sometimes not so quietly!) growing ever since.

I have been a member of the Communist Party of Great Britain since 1927, but it is best to keep such things quiet as a serving soldier in the British Army...

Not that I am not a patriot you understand, but there has to be a better way of running things, the lives of ordinary workers and their families could be so much better even in England - and we need employment rights, good housing, sanitation and above all, free health care. Once day this may all come to pass, if not by revolution then by evolution.

One thing is sure - after this terrible war is over, the workers will no longer bow down to the bosses, nor be so deferential to those who rule.

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Oh yeah, her's where I get the titles of Soviet films.

http://www.amherst.edu/~russian/resource/films/

then a quick search on IMDB & I've got enough details!

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Oh yeah, her's where I get the titles of Soviet films.

http://www.amherst.edu/~russian/resource/films/

then a quick search on IMDB & I've got enough details!


Im in their database as well 8)

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