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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 20:13 pm 
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I've introduced myself in the welcome section, but wanted to ask specific questions about ladies wear.

I've got myself a few bits & bobs to wear, such as 1940's style dress (new, but has appropriate features such as modest neckline with keyhole, just below knee, in navy polkadot) and shoes (again new, but seem to fit in well with the dress and look an ok style for the era, hat (heritage milliner - thank you Karen), gloves (Dents), and vintage basket. I've also bought (on heave-bay) a WWII WI enamelled badge and also an RAF "home Comforts" enamelled badge - not sure if either are authentic, I doubt it! Also, a couple of bits of jewellery - feather style brooch embellished with 'jewels', pearl earrings, and the thing I'm most unsure about (and to make it clear, I abhor any sort of cruelty in any form) an antique silver fox fur inherited from my Grandmother - but, despite it being appropriate and the correct age for WWII, I'm unsure how the public would view it? I might take a jaundiced view if I saw someone wearing one - no matter what the circumstances, but would appreciate hearing whether anyone else has experience of this?

I'd also like to hear whether people ask about the era and how you fit in... the thing which really brought WWII to life for me was the little snippets of history that the re-enactors I spoke to shared with me - Is it good to find out about the history of the type of person you might have been (or are re-enacting?)

Sorry, so many questions which I'm sure have been asked over and over, I appreciate any input - please forgive my laziness for nor trawling the website, but I'm wearing my impatient pants tonight! ;)


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 5:06 am 
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Not an expert in ladieswear, so cannot help much there. The badges probably are authentic - if not it doesn't matter, as long as they look right. Fox fur - yes, it is what they did, whether we like it or not - but how many people actually owned one? If we are reenacting 1940s we must reenact attitudes,language etc etc. Many present-day people would be horrified at attitudes to sex, or race - our elderly neighbour still talks about "darkies". The same applies to Tudor or Victorian reenactment. Get yourself a good backstory, i.e. research a character. I prefer "first person" events - "This is what I do", not "this is what they did" - I had one MOP talking to me about Bletchley Park; I looked totally blank, and when he explained to me about the code-breaking I was horrified and told him he shouldn't be talking about such things!


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:33 am 
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When myself and other half go to 1940s events she wears a fur stole and so do many other ladies , the attitude of those who wish to play the part is pretty much in keeping with the period , the same goes for smoking not frowned upon .
Why not look out some family photos of your Grandmother and base your character around her . You could also research into the Women's Voluntary service , ATS , nurses , factory workers etc as most women in WWII had to have a job as well as running a home it wasn't all promenading in fancy clothes , so there is a big area of characters to work on if wanted to .
Also hand knitted cardigans a very good for the period .
Have fun .

Rob


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 23:03 pm 
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Hi there,

may I give you some advice? Don't buy anything else until you've done some research?

Fur was worn, but not with a summer dress and a wicker basket. It was high end, evening wear and with a smart autumn/winter suit.

Facebook is your friend if you want a good, period outfit. Polka dots are more 50s and a lot of 'vintage' sellers will flog you anything.

Join some period clothing groups and you can learn and see what's correct and save yourself money. The reality of women in wartime Britain was not the glamorous 'pin up' style, more cotton frocks and knitwear and separates. Low heeled lace ups with a chunky block heel. I've posted some groups you might want to join.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/20s30s40smarketplace/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/136025633272249/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/261872400594865/

Kate

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Women's Navy Great Coat
Green floor length 1930s evening dress with sleeves set on net.
Blue and white rayon dress with peplum
Black velvet halter necked dress with silver shot thread skirt (may still have Harrods label in it) I have photos of all of these items and I know where they are in Scunthorpe, but would appreciate a nod if they come up for sale. [/color]


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 8:16 am 
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I was at a 40's night a couple of months ago, the women in civvies were nicely dressed but the majority were going for the Mrs Fox look, blue or brown polka dot summer dresses, with fur stole, plenty of long evening gloves as well. Evidently a company were selling the complete set up on Amazon.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 20:21 pm 
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obt48 wrote:
Not an expert in ladieswear, so cannot help much there. The badges probably are authentic - if not it doesn't matter, as long as they look right. Fox fur - yes, it is what they did, whether we like it or not - but how many people actually owned one? If we are reenacting 1940s we must reenact attitudes,language etc etc. Many present-day people would be horrified at attitudes to sex, or race - our elderly neighbour still talks about "darkies". The same applies to Tudor or Victorian reenactment. Get yourself a good backstory, i.e. research a character. I prefer "first person" events - "This is what I do", not "this is what they did" - I had one MOP talking to me about Bletchley Park; I looked totally blank, and when he explained to me about the code-breaking I was horrified and told him he shouldn't be talking about such things!


Thanks, I liked the badges as it seemed to help give you an identity and place in the grand scheme of things.

RobinDBanks wrote:
When myself and other half go to 1940s events she wears a fur stole and so do many other ladies , the attitude of those who wish to play the part is pretty much in keeping with the period , the same goes for smoking not frowned upon .
Why not look out some family photos of your Grandmother and base your character around her . You could also research into the Women's Voluntary service , ATS , nurses , factory workers etc as most women in WWII had to have a job as well as running a home it wasn't all promenading in fancy clothes , so there is a big area of characters to work on if wanted to .
Also hand knitted cardigans a very good for the period .
Have fun .

Rob


That’s good to know Rob, thank you! Unfortunately I don’t have many pics of my Grandmother Zofia, she was a rather intimidating character living in Gdynia, Poland, and sadly I have very little knowledge of her life. But yes, I’ll be researching a ‘typical’ housewife of the era and if anyone has any reading suggestions, I’d be very grateful of the advice.


Miss Spitfire wrote:
Hi there,

may I give you some advice? Don't buy anything else until you've done some research?

Fur was worn, but not with a summer dress and a wicker basket. It was high end, evening wear and with a smart autumn/winter suit.

Facebook is your friend if you want a good, period outfit. Polka dots are more 50s and a lot of 'vintage' sellers will flog you anything.

Join some period clothing groups and you can learn and see what's correct and save yourself money. The reality of women in wartime Britain was not the glamorous 'pin up' style, more cotton frocks and knitwear and separates. Low heeled lace ups with a chunky block heel. I've posted some groups you might want to join.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/20s30s40smarketplace/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/136025633272249/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/261872400594865/

Kate


Kate, that’s fantastic advice - many thanks :)
Sadly I”m not on Facebook, but might have to join to get the info! Apart from the polkadot dress, I’ve got some 1940’s vintage sewing patterns and have acquired some appropriate fabric (cotton, floral, muted-isn tones) so I’ll be adopting the ‘make’ part of the the 1940’s ethic if not the ’mend’… but as I’m a bit disaster prone, I’m sure I’ll enjoy the whole experience at some point!!!
My mum is also a fantastic knitter (and at 88 years old, always enjoys a new challenge!) so I may be taking advantage of her skills…

I used my common sense and thought about the fur - as why would anyone wear it in summer? I’ll be looking out for an appropriate jacket, either a pattern to make or something vintage, I’m guessing a ‘tweedy’ effect is best for this era?

I’ve got some rather nice low heeled lace up, chunky heeled black shoes - from of all places Next!!! I’m rather pleased with them as they (to me) look ‘right’ for the time, and to be very honest, I wasn’t prepared to buy a secondhand shoe - old fusspot that I am! LOL!

Mick wrote:
I was at a 40's night a couple of months ago, the women in civvies were nicely dressed but the majority were going for the Mrs Fox look, blue or brown polka dot summer dresses, with fur stole, plenty of long evening gloves as well. Evidently a company were selling the complete set up on Amazon.


Thanks Mick, I’ve trawled amazon and heave-bay for things, but apart from the dress already mentioned, I’m going to be making a few myself as there are some really lovely fabrics about that seem to be in keeping with the 40’s, and the patterns are fairly straightforward to follow (with mum’s help!)

I’ve also had a look at a couple of websites specialising in this type of clothing, and have been impressed by “house of foxy”, as this seems to match the ‘image in my head’ about 1940’s ladies - however, bear in mind my passion is photography which will colour the view I have on any visually based interpretations…

Ladies, again, I’d very much appreciate thoughts and input, and thank you to everyone that’s been kind enough to comment :)


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 22:20 pm 
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House of Foxy, Lindy Bop, etc are all vinage inspired. They're not authentic (and to be fair don't claim to be) but they're not suitable for living history.

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Be very careful about loaning original items...also, please keep an eye out for :
*Still missing* Because some folks are devoid of an ounce of honesty or integrity.
Women's Navy Great Coat
Green floor length 1930s evening dress with sleeves set on net.
Blue and white rayon dress with peplum
Black velvet halter necked dress with silver shot thread skirt (may still have Harrods label in it) I have photos of all of these items and I know where they are in Scunthorpe, but would appreciate a nod if they come up for sale. [/color]


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 20:12 pm 
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For knitting, have a look at this: http://www.fab40s.co.uk/Ladies1.html


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 20:57 pm 
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Miss Spitfire wrote:
House of Foxy, Lindy Bop, etc are all vinage inspired. They're not authentic (and to be fair don't claim to be) but they're not suitable for living history.

:)


Thanks Kate, I thought as much - but I can't help being attracted to their designs because I know they'd be comfy! and being a lady of a certain age... ;)


obt48 wrote:
For knitting, have a look at this: http://www.fab40s.co.uk/Ladies1.html


That's a fab site!!!! Thank you so much for the info :)


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