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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 18:17 pm 
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Anyone ever heard of possibly large calibre naval guns deployed to sites around London?

A while back I found a story about one in Bromley (??), manned by the Home Guard. It was in a park somewhere...

These were artillery, not AA...

Anyone got a clue?

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I have the book, " Gunners At War" by Peter Mead, and I don't know if its what you need to know, The Boche Buster a 18inch railway gun of the 1914-18 war, used in 1942 by 11th Super Heavy Battery at Bishopsbourne , there are others mentioned around the Dover area.

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I know all about the cross channel guns (Scene Shifter, Winnie, Pooh etc), but they weren't in South London :D

This was definitely South London somewhere, which is why it was unusual.

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Hi Andy

I was going to say try Firepower The Royal Artillery Museum in Woolwich but its closed down :cry: , you could try link, if you get no help on forum, all the best.

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https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j ... DVYWZtf1GF

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2 more possible sources of information:-

https://collections.royalarmouries.org/#/archives

http://www.iwm.org.uk/research/research-facilities

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Both the 4.5" and 5.25" AA Guns were derived from Naval Guns and were used on Ships during WW2.
This is the most likely explanation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QF_5.25_inch_gun

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QF_4.5-in ... _naval_gun


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During the Blitz my dad was in charge of 54th HAA battery (at Putney I believe) which had 4 x 3.7 and 4 x 4.5 Ack Ack guns. Like this: http://media.iwm.org.uk/ciim5/40/371/mid_000000.jpg


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I'm sure it was bigger than a 5.25"... I want to say it was 10"?

Owen, 3.7 and 4.5 are standard British AA of the time.

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I can't imagine a Naval Gun over 5.25" being deployed unless a Railway Gun of which there were many in different calibres.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1FD3yXEkzc

Army Guns of the period would have been 7.2", 8" and 5" (60 Pounder). The Wiltshire Home Guard some how acquired one of the latter.


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No, definitely not railway mounted.

It was in a park!

And I wouldn't have thought it was "current" Army issue either as it was HG crewed. Fairly sure it was described as ex-naval.

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