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 Post subject: Red Army equipment
PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 19:24 pm 
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During the GPW did the webbing equipment change in some parts? Were leather magazine pouches(Mosin-nagant, SVT) issued more than canvas ones?
Were cookpots used more than mess kits?
About M35 uniform, was it more common than M43?

Trying to get soviet kit for around 1943, Kursk maybe.


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 Post subject: Re: Red Army equipment
PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 20:30 pm 
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All rifle pouches were leather generally (yes, there are some odd examples of canvas ones but they are just that... odd examples).

"paint tins" were early, fascist style two piece messtins came in before WW2 and by the end were almost 100% of what you saw.

The Obr35 uniform was much more common than the Obr43 before mid 1943 :)

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Thanks for the information, very appreciated :wink:


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Andrei Kozlov wrote:
All rifle pouches were leather generally (yes, there are some odd examples of canvas ones but they are just that... odd examples).)


And, generally speaking, if you see the canvas ersatz pouch it's only as a replacement for one leather pouch. i.e. you'd have one leather and one canvas. Never use the kirza ones they are all post war.

By mid '43 you probably wouldn't have either the reserve ammo pouch or the bandolier either - you did see them it's just that they're rare by that time.

Pocketless Obr43 gymnastiorka
No y-straps
Flyaga in the carrier attached directly to the belt rather than on a clip
Lopatka can be of the pressed type rather than riveted by that date (riveted is still OK)
Gas mask bag can be without external pockets rather than the BN type (similarly the BN is still OK)
And a veshchevoi meshok - don't convert a post war one good repros are plentiful and reasonable cost.

Whereabouts in Finland are you? We have friends in a club based in Piter (I know it isn't that close but it's a hell of a lot closer than the UK! :D )

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Vesmeshok from Front of Russia, dated 1955. Are these close to the WW2 model?
For PPSH41, they had canvas pouch for one drum mag, right? Were soldiers who carried PPSH41 issued more than one mag pouch?
Also, what kind of undershirts did soldiers have under their uniforms?

I live in south, not so far from Helsinki :)


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IWorneshok has pockets and blanket straps then no.

One drum mag pouch was worn, perhaps others in jacket or gas mask bag.

Shirts were either a white cotton collarless one or a light blue sleeveless vest.

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