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 Post subject: Re: Combat Photography
PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 12:15 pm 
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Hah, same here, too many camera's not enough time

My cabinet is stuffed with:
  • Kodak No.2 Box Brownie Model F
  • Kodak No.2 Autographic Brownie
  • Kodak Vest Pocket
  • Kodak 35 (Kodamatic Shutter)
  • Kodak 35 RF (Kodamatic Shutter)
  • Kodak 35 Military "PH-324" (Diomatic Shutter)
  • Kodak Medalist I (with 1941 Ektar Lens)
  • Kodak Retina II (model 142)
  • Zeiss Ikon Box Tengor (first model)
  • Zeiss Super Ikonta 532/16
  • Anniversary Speed Graphic 4x5 black face with 1946 Ektar lens (I use a rollfilm holder or a Polaroid back, need to get into 4x5 sheet film)
  • Anniversary Speed Graphic 3x4 with also with an Ektar lens (haven't used it yet, no film holders)
  • Ciroflex Model D (1946)
  • Rolleiflex Standard (Needs new light seals, and I need to give the film advance gears the once-over)
  • Rolleicord Ia
  • Kamera Werke Pilot-6
  • Ihagee Exacta (early post-war model)
  • Certo Super-Dolina
  • Argus A
  • Argus C-3
  • Welta Weltini II (Needs a CLA)

Cine cameras
  • Bell & Howell Filmo
  • Keystone A7

Few post war cameras
  • Kiev IIa
  • Agfa Click
  • Agfa Clack
  • Argus C-44
  • Praktica MTL-50
  • Konica Auto S2
  • Voightlander Vitoret D
  • Epson R-D1 Digital Rangefinder (my Digital User)



Not all of them are priceless objet d'art, but I'm having good fun using them or simply trying them out with different types of film.

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 Post subject: Re: Combat Photography
PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 14:42 pm 
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I`ve just created a page about recreating the combat Photograher look at: http://www.theworldatwar.info/uscombatc ... nlook.html

I hope it`s a help, and if I`ve missed anything and you want to contribute ( with your reference) please pm and I`ll add it.

Also; you may be interested in reading my interview with Norman Hatch, USMC rtd.
http://www.theworldatwar.info/normanhatch.html


Hope you like them, and they`re helpful to you. :D


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 21:18 pm 
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Do you happen to know what the cheapest ww2 Camera I could get is ? Id be looking for one which is pre-Dday manufactured...
Cheers for any gen guys,
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 8:19 am 
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If price is an issue, buy anything pre-war that looks like it is right.

Sounds cavalier; but looking at the gallery at Combat Cameraman.org ( http://www.combatcamera.org/ww2gallery/index.php ) and watching 'Shooting War', they used many different cameras.

Buying 'the exact one' will not be the cheapest option. Me; I`m still hunting for a reasonable priced Graflex 4x5...... and even 'reasonable' will be over £100 ( usually around £250) :shock:

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:24 am 
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As a private Purchase 35mm Camera for an American soldier, the Argus C-3 is the cheapest you can find. Should cost around 10 GBP. (For an early model: look for one with a metal frame-counter on top and with 7+ speeds indicated on the shutter speed wheel)

The C-3 was introduced in 1938 and was one of the top selling 35mm cameras for 3 decades in the US. Millions were produced in very similar looking types, and the images they shoot is not half bad... if you can handle the ergonomics of these "Bricks".

Kodak 35 (RF) cameras are also easy to find, a little more expensive then the C-3. More user-friendly, but I'm no fan of the image quality of the lenses.

Box cameras are cheap as chips, but a bit more hassle with getting and developing film.

Affordable WW2 military cameras is a "Contradictio in terminis" ;)

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 15:40 pm 
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Mr_Flibble wrote:
As a private Purchase 35mm Camera for an American soldier, the Argus C-3 is the cheapest you can find. Should cost around 10 GBP. (For an early model: look for one with a metal frame-counter on top and with 7+ speeds indicated on the shutter speed wheel)

The C-3 was introduced in 1938 and was one of the top selling 35mm cameras for 3 decades in the US. Millions were produced in very similar looking types, and the images they shoot is not half bad... if you can handle the ergonomics of these "Bricks".

Kodak 35 (RF) cameras are also easy to find, a little more expensive then the C-3. More user-friendly, but I'm no fan of the image quality of the lenses.

Box cameras are cheap as chips, but a bit more hassle with getting and developing film.

Affordable WW2 military cameras is a "Contradictio in terminis" ;)


Thats the stuff mate ! £10 sounds great to a young tight-fisted Scotsman ! :lol: Do you have any for sale, or know a supplier where I can get such a camera ?
Cheers mate,
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 Post subject: Re: Combat Photography
PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:47 am 
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I've had 3 C-3s at some point, but only got one left at the moment and I'm keeping it! ;)
These camera's are pretty much indestructible and pretty easy to maintain (exercise is usually just what they need to stay in shape)

Argus C-3 cameras are a little sparse on this side of the pond, but there usually are a few on Ebay.


Back in the 1940s the C-3 was concidered to be a middle-class camera and cost around $30. And the company was a major competitor with Kodak Eastman at the time.

Some images from the last roll I shot through a C-3:

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 13:15 pm 
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what makes a good combat photograper?


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:02 am 
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A real one or a re-enactor?


For a re-enacted War Photographer, I guess the correct uniform and knowing a bit of the history of War Photography. Using and/or knowing how to use a period/manual camera would also be a plus. ;)


For a real one, the only important thing would be the quality of the images he/she shoots.

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a re-enactor combat photography


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I think a passion for both photography and the subject ( same there as any type of photography), a knowledge of the subject and - the trust of your models.

As with the prettier, less clothed models - if you don`t have the trust of your models you won`t get the best from them.

Technique. If your pics aren`t good enough, you`re not close enough. Equipment...bullet proof and as protected as it can be against damage ( rubber case and lens filter). If you worry about killing the camera, you won`t get close enough to feel the action in the shot....

......oh and some WW2 kit helps :lol:


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thanks ade for that advise! look forward to meeting up soon! by the way how long have you been doing combat photography?


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.......combat photography; about 4 years. Photography.......ow!! ( 30 years :( )


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photography 4 years and combat photography 2 years! i have a long ways to go! combat photography is good stuff! you learn history and you get to get some great shots that capture the moment! :D


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Finally took the time to read through this thread. Some very nice camera collections about.

Early on in the thread AGFA colour film was mentioned. Does anyone know what modern film can be used to get that pre-war AGFA look?

Also pre-war filed developing kits were mentioned. Anyone have any more details/photos?


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:07 am 
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An uncoated camera lens is a good start for a pre-war look.

For period looking colour film I've used Kodak Ektar 100 film.
If you expose this spot on you get muted colours like from period film,
if you over-expose it by a stop you get very saturated colours like Kodak Kodachrome slide film from the period (look for photos from Alfred Palmer and Jack Delano to see what I mean).

For black&white film I've had some nice grainy effects with Adox 100 and faster. Adox uses a 1950s film recipe. Fomapan is similar I'm told.

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