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 Post subject: 5th AFPU Camera Case
PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:19 am 
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Hi All

Looking for a bit of info here , if any of you can help

I have just picked up the following :

-An original WW2 Cover for a Camera Case of the 5th ARMY FILM & PHOTOGRAPHIC Unit. Cotton cover with 1944 date by ME CO....Bolex H16 leather case inside !!!.The cover is for this case as it fits and is obviously made for this size and type of case..Case good but cover with part of seam needing a restitch and straps for the buckle worn...The 5th AFPU were in Normandy & Germany etc during WW2.

This case certainly fits my 1943 and 1944 Bolex cameras and its accesories and is identical to a standard Bolex case

What I am interested in here is the possible use of Bolex H16s by the AFPU , as they are not a standard AFPU camera . AFPU used , as far as I am aware , 35mm De Vry , 35mm Vinten and 35mm Eyemo for film work , so not sure how a Bolex gets in the mix as its 16mm , unless of course its private purchase for personal use ??.

If anybody can add some information or some plausible answers I would be most interested please

Thanks , guys ,

Many thanks , Jason , Many Fronts Living History


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 Post subject: Re: 5th AFPU Camera Case
PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:34 am 
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if its from Ebay seller "Military Trader UK" then its probably an old bumbag that he stamped himself.

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Jason, you have probably seen this but .. perhaps there is someone there you can contact for further detailed info ..??

http://www.afpu.co.uk/

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BIG AL PRICE wrote:
if its from Ebay seller "Military Trader UK" then its probably an old bumbag that he stamped himself.


Hi Big Al

I am suspiscous , but the slip for the case is to well made and fits the case perfectly which it has been made for , also its period material , could be a later civvy item which has been date stamped
( counterfeited ) , but why try to make a couple of quid this way , I would have faked a German item , much easier and better profit :lol:

I pressume you know of this individual , hence the reply , so looks a dodgy item ??

Many thanks , Jason


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Correspondent wrote:
Jason, you have probably seen this but .. perhaps there is someone there you can contact for further detailed info ..??

http://www.afpu.co.uk/



Thanks Corespondent for the link , I will give this a try , lets hope this is "real" item and not a fake

Regards , Jason


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Jason,this seller is quite well known for having VERY clean & clear dates on some strange kit.He was selling the "british Airborne medical smocks" a few years ago,that were "found in a loft at Arnhem"...

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Got me worried now ... Just got a flight bag from him ... looks genuine enough, right age, right smell etc .. and a few little things about it that perhaps just cant be faked ... BUT .. ???

What do you think ... I managed to get a handle from Italy, it has gone on well to replace the rope handle repair that was fitted .. !!


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Coincidence?

box camera with AFPU bag

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Sounds fishy to me Jason.

Think of the workflow to get the material on screen. Making prints for duplication would involve neg cutting., and trying to incorporate 16mm footage when everything else is 35mm would be awkward to say the least. Making a blow-up dupe negative could probably be done, but why bother? It's not like a Bolex H16 is a super-lightweight bit of kit compared to a De Vry

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