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 Post subject: Underpinnings...
PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 20:45 pm 
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Good evening Ladies,
Bit of a delicate question... what should I be wearing under my nice authentic kit?
A Google of 1940's underwear produces lots of boudoir style stuff which, although nice, I'm sure isn't quite correct.
I'm okay with the fact stockings are generally Lisle, but should I be looking at suspender belt, girdle, corset to hang them off?
And as for bra's; bullet bras appear to be the right thing but can I get one in my size!?!?

Any advice greatly appreciated!

Susan

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 22:04 pm 
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Bulletbras are really a post war type of brassiere, you really want something like the Kayser Bondor soft bra. If you can't find an original in your size they are incredibly easy to make.
http://www.ballyhoovintage.com/miva/images/20597.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_lcUeMYHi42k/S ... estos2.jpg (Kestos type bra)

Or if you have lumps and bumps or lumps in the wrong places, a corselette. (although these were even worn by skinny minnies who wanted that long lean line in the 30s and early 40s.

Companies like Rago still make a good corselette, What katie did have started to make more wartime style rather than the pin up stuff, but honestly 40s undies are sooooo easy to make even for a beginner.

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Women's Navy Great Coat
Green floor length 1930s evening dress with sleeves set on net.
Blue and white rayon dress with peplum
Black velvet halter necked dress with silver shot thread skirt (may still have Harrods label in it) I have photos of all of these items and I know where they are in Scunthorpe, but would appreciate a nod if they come up for sale. [/color]


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:44 am 
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Good idea Miss Spitfire - although still slightly daunted!

I like the CC09 range at What Katie Did, but haven't tried for the fit yet.

Making one's own sounds excellent and I have purchased this pattern to get me started, which might not be 100 per cent accurate for your impression Susan, but the patterns are usually excellent.
[url]http://www.decadesofstyle.com/vintage-patterns-1940s/4010---1940s-boardwalk-duet
[/url]

I will also hunt for some originals and to seek out more patterns. Evadress seems to have some good ones for "tap pants" or mini bloomers as I call them and soft cupped brassieres and slips.

I have just bought a hand sewn 1930s/40s bias peach slik slip. Can't wait for it to arrive. Does anyone have any evidence of social history indicating the wearing of slips regardless of colour of outerwear - ie not just for modesty under a pale dress? I would be interested to look into this more.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:17 pm 
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I like Decades of style, I just finished their Empire trousers and although I had to alter them (they run v large) they are pretty good.

Re slips, it seems to just be a question of 'will it show through' most of mine are pale blues or white, then I have a yellow one made from parachute silk and I bought a lovely hand made black one a few months ago from a bargain bin at an event.

Let me know how you get on,
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Be very careful about loaning original items...also, please keep an eye out for :
*Still missing* Because some folks are devoid of an ounce of honesty or integrity.
Women's Navy Great Coat
Green floor length 1930s evening dress with sleeves set on net.
Blue and white rayon dress with peplum
Black velvet halter necked dress with silver shot thread skirt (may still have Harrods label in it) I have photos of all of these items and I know where they are in Scunthorpe, but would appreciate a nod if they come up for sale. [/color]


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 20:55 pm 
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To quote Cole Porter: "In olden days a glimpse of stocking was looked on as something shocking ... "

I'm not that old (well, I was born 1n 1944, so I suppose I am), but as I recall, showing your 'underpinnings' was definitely not something that a well brought up 'young gel' would do - modesty was far more of an important thing back then.

I'm in Arizona, 7000 miles away from Blighty, but I'm looking forward to attending some of these shows when we return. Can I be guaranteed a glimpse of stocking?

On a more serious note, I know that members of the female forces were issued with underwear, but did they always stick to the regulation kit? I honestly don't know, so if anyone knows, I'd love to hear if they wore civilian underwear under the uniform. Did they have regular kit inspections, with an NCO checking under the skirt with a mirror?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 21:52 pm 
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Tony! Shocking....

Yes the women's forces were all issued with underwear. Long draws in cellular cotton or a type of jersey, a suspender belt in pink, stockings (lisle) and vests. The kit was checked on the basis of -all kit laid out on the bed. 'wearing one, one in the wash and the rest folded neatly. A lot of service women ditched the issued undies, but then regretted it. especially after the issue of BD, which chafes a bit-they then wished they'd kept the issue 'twilights' or 'harvest festivals' (all is safely gathered in!)
For some girls, the issued kit was luxury after coming from poor backgrounds and I've spoken to many ex service ladies who said that it was the first time that they had underwear at all or at least was new to them.
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Be very careful about loaning original items...also, please keep an eye out for :
*Still missing* Because some folks are devoid of an ounce of honesty or integrity.
Women's Navy Great Coat
Green floor length 1930s evening dress with sleeves set on net.
Blue and white rayon dress with peplum
Black velvet halter necked dress with silver shot thread skirt (may still have Harrods label in it) I have photos of all of these items and I know where they are in Scunthorpe, but would appreciate a nod if they come up for sale. [/color]


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