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 Post subject: Re: Red Tails
PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:30 am 
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one pic i saw for it did make me laugh, a mustang flaming a me 262 out of the sky, mustangs were good, but the 262 pilot would have to be realy shabby to have that happen (or just realy unlucky), 262's decimated in the few battles they fought.

Papagei Stafel was formed to protect Me262's when coming in to land or on take off...

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This film like Pearl Harbour does not need to be seen to be disliked and sworn at for crimes against what happened historically, "Practical lessons of power to weight ratios/cross sectional areas, wing dynamics, it was also very cold and windy" and most importantly the Dress Regulations of the USAAF .

The trailer covers all these hateful points, so you can avoid wasting an hour or two of your life .

It gives me hope, we are more worried about the BD of that chap though, we are a good bunch at heart really :lol: .

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well I am glad to be proven wrong in this, I had always read that few aircraft could match the me262 in dogfights, glad I am wrong cos both thos birds mentioned are nice ones :) (I may re-enact german, but it dosnt meen i dont like a p51)

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There is a brilliant documentary on the Red Tail. It has been on the History/Yesterday channels a while ago so should be out there somewhere.


"Double Victory”: Real Life “Red Tails"

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well I am glad to be proven wrong in this, I had always read that few aircraft could match the me262 in dogfights, glad I am wrong cos both thos birds mentioned are nice ones :) (I may re-enact german, but it dosnt meen i dont like a p51)


No offence but whoever told you that is way wrong. The Me262 was a dog. Yes, it had a fantastic top speed but that was it. It's rate of roll and rate of turn were terrible.

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If it inspires anyone to read more about these guys, it has to be a good thing.


Not seen the film (yet) but I agree with your sentiment. And I suppose that goes for less-than-100%-accurate re-enactors, too, doesn't it? If Joe Public is stirred into doing a bit of research or whatever as a result of a (possibly bad) uniform he's seen at a WW2 event, that can only be good, can't it?

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Although this is probabaly, as usual, too ''politically correct''....

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my family in U.S.A they say is VERY GOOD film
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ive seen it and trust me it isnt

i should really clarify that by saying if id been a kid ive of loved it, loads of action and planes and cgi

but im a grown up and all i could do while i watched was think 'thats silly' or 'that wouldnt happen' or 'what happened to the laws of physics?'


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ive seen it and trust me it isnt

i should really clarify that by saying if id been a kid ive of loved it, loads of action and planes and cgi

but im a grown up and all i could do while i watched was think 'thats silly' or 'that wouldnt happen' or 'what happened to the laws of physics?'


It was.....mediocre. Too much of 'we are winning the war for you'. As I expected it was too politically correct.

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Just a quick shout,

The red tails only naval "kill" was a German destroyer put out of action. However in the video clip that ship looks really like H.M.S Hood or at least a made up cruiser of some kind it deffenatly not a German destroyer.

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Just a quick shout,

The red tails only naval "kill" was a German destroyer put out of action. However in the video clip that ship looks really like H.M.S Hood or at least a made up cruiser of some kind it deffenatly not a German destroyer.

By a P47, not a P51...

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Awful.

Acting, terrible.

Special effect, WTF?!

Pure fantasy.

And not once did I see Cuba Gooding.Jr actually smoke that pipe, just kept popping it in and out of his mouth as if he had somesort of fetish

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It is one of my sons fav films, indeed after watching the film he created his own Airfix red tail squadron.

I do not know much about US aviation history, so probably I am wrong, but I thought the ME 262's decimated the USAAF in aerial combat, thankfully this was late in the war and there were not enough 262's to make a major impact

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It is one of my sons fav films, indeed after watching the film he created his own Airfix red tail squadron.

I do not know much about US aviation history, so probably I am wrong, but I thought the ME 262's decimated the USAAF in aerial combat, thankfully this was late in the war and there were not enough 262's to make a major impact


I know of one 262 which was shot down by a P38.

The Jets, if lined up properly at the correct range would make mince meat of any aircraft with it's 20mm cannons.

The pilots however were originally trained on prop aircraft, many just didn't have quicky enough reactions.

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