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I bought a Brit rhum jug from 1939 on ebay last week
and it has S.R.D. in big black letters printed on it on the top brown part of the jug.Can anyone tell me what those letters mean.
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It stood for standard rum dilution and was issued just before advancing 'over the top' as a means of quelling the nerves.
I have seen them sold as 'southern railway distilleries!!!' by antique markets who know no better.

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thanks for the info. What would it cost these days a bottle from 1939

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nattyjack wrote:
It stood for standard rum dilution and was issued just before advancing 'over the top' as a means of quelling the nerves.
I have seen them sold as 'southern railway distilleries!!!' by antique markets who know no better.

nattyjack

or Service Rum Diluted, and no NJ, it wasn't just for advaning over the top - it was a daily thing in the Trenches. The last time I can physically remember it being issued (G10 Rum ) was in 80, when my Sqn was searching for a lost child

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thanks for the info. What would it cost these days a bottle from 1939

about 15 Euros in Ypres...

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And £45 at an antiques fair. Which is why they stay there lol.

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SRD: Supply Reserve Depot?
SRD is stencilled on crates etc, incl. those that were discovered with al the footpowder in 1992? And on the crates is a shamrock (?) with three leaves

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I allways thought it was service rum depot?


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The problem is, is that the meaning has disappeared & has so many interpretations......

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No problem at all.
Wdrob is spot on - SRD is and always has been the British military acronym for 'Supply Reserve Depot' the official issuing depot for the rum ration until 1970.
The primary SRD was in Deptford. The rum warehouses on the wharf still exist.
Anything else you hear bandied around is pure fiction.
As to what it's worth - assuming it is made by Pearsons of Chesterfield and is a one gallon volume size a UK price of about £15 would be in the right ball park.

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sorry,
i stand corrected! I was just going on what i was told by veterans and unfortunately theyre not around to verify it now (maybe the only time they remembered was just befor an attack as these things would tend to stick in the mind and it was a long time ago even when I spoke to them)
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I find veterans are a two edged sword on stuff like this.
If they don't know they'll often make a guess just so as not to look foolish I suppose. Then we take what they say for gospel and suddenly you find it written up in books!
This is not to disrespect veterans in any way - after all, they can't all be experts in every aspect of their kit, etc.
I don't suppose many of them were in the least bit fussed about what SRD stood for - they were more interested in getting at the contents of the jar! And who can blame them?!

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I find veterans are a two edged sword on stuff like this.
If they don't know they'll often make a guess just so as not to look foolish I suppose. Then we take what they say for gospel and suddenly you find it written up in books!


Ohhh aye, and you get same in re-enacting...

Done a wee bit of a search, and they held anything liquid, rum just being one of them and apparently the rum wicker baskets being sprayed red...

A mate found a whole bunch of them, apparently where they came from, the owner landfilled hundreds of them, he salvaged a few, I'll be reproducing them very shortly if anyone is interested;
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NOTE, Rhum is an island off the west coast of Scotland, rum is what ye drink...

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As Saddletramp has said, the rum ones in wicker jackets have a red band painted around their middle. My one has a red band about 1.5 inch roughly (well, it is on woven wicker!) painted about it's middle. Strong smell of rum still in it too! The usual dilution was 50/50 rum to water.


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Yes, definitely Supply Reserve Depot.


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