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Just a quick question - apart from being used by the 6th Airborne Division in Italy and Arnhem, where else did the Brits use the 75mm Pack Howitzer on the M8 carriage? I was thinking maybe the far east but can't find any information. Any info greatly appreciated, cheers, Rob

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It's my understanding that only 6 pounders were used in the Sicily campaign. Both Airborne Divisions used the 75 in Europe. I think any 75s in Burma were carried, in their 'pack' style, by mule.

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Cheers, so were the 75mm pack howitzers used in Normandy? All I know of are the 1st Airlanding Light Regiment who saw service in Italy and the Arnhem campaign that used the 75mm Pack Howitzer, be interested in information of any other regiments that used it. Also, would any 75's in Burma have the wooden wheels and simpler carriage, or the M8 carriage like used by the British Airborne?

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53rd(Worcestershire Yeomanry) Light Regt RA had their 75s in action in Normandy and Germany. I believe the 75s used in Burma were on standard carriages.

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main pack how in india to my knowledge and from the farndale book was the 3.7 which was also used in Italy. Did the Airborne ever use 3.7 pack in anger?

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The 53rd Worcestershire Yeomanry (6th AB) had 3 batteries of 75mm Pack Howitzers, 210, 211 and 212. One battery (cant remember from memory) flew into battle on 6th June 1944 and had the distinction of being the first Royal Artillery unit to fly into battle. The other 2 batteries followed by sea. One battery consisted of 2 sections, each with 4 guns.

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Rlangham wrote:
apart from being used by the 6th Airborne Division in Italy and Arnhem,


1st Airborne Division at Arnhem.

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The 53rd Worcestershire Yeomanry (6th AB) had 3 batteries of 75mm Pack Howitzers, 210, 211 and 212. One battery (cant remember from memory) flew into battle on 6th June 1944 and had the distinction of being the first Royal Artillery unit to fly into battle. The other 2 batteries followed by sea. One battery consisted of 2 sections, each with 4 guns.

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That would of course be Troops being Gunners

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The 53rd Worcestershire Yeomanry (6th AB) had 3 batteries of 75mm Pack Howitzers, 210, 211 and 212.


For Op Varsity, due to a lack of gliders, 210 Battery was split up. Part of A Troop went to 211 and all of B Troop went to 212. The remainder of A Troop went in with the 12th Devons as an advance party to clear the LZ: as it happened, the 513th PIR was dropped there in error and did the job for them.

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The 53rd Worcestershire Yeomanry (6th AB) had 3 batteries of 75mm Pack Howitzers, 210, 211 and 212. One battery (cant remember from memory) flew into battle on 6th June 1944 and had the distinction of being the first Royal Artillery unit to fly into battle. The other 2 batteries followed by sea. One battery consisted of 2 sections, each with 4 guns.

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That would of course be Troops being Gunners

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Yes - sorry "Troops" - was in a rush to get to the beach thismorning ! :wink:


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Ahah cheers for the info - are there any events you're taking the 75mm this year Tim?

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He's only gone and missed them Tim :wink:

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Ahah cheers for the info - are there any events you're taking the 75mm this year Tim?


Nothing between now and October as it'll be off being repaired.

Later in the year - well that will depend if any events come along.

If you went to Beltring this year you'd have seen the other 2 x 75mm Pack Howitzers in the Summer of 44 group "in action".

Perhaps next year - subject to being invited places - have been asked if I will take it to Le Muy in the South of France... but this will require written permission from the French Ministry of the Interior... unsure how easy that will be to get - and then will be looking for a sponsor to cover some/all of the costs.

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How many Howitzers does your group actually have? I saw something on the Assault Glider Forum about having three guns,four crews, and support vehicles,which sound really impressive.
Also I have seen pictures of Living History Group Holland with Howitzers.Do they crew yours, or is 1st Airlanding Light Regiment represented by more than one group.If so,it would be amazing if they get together.

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How many Howitzers does your group actually have? I saw something on the Assault Glider Forum about having three guns,four crews, and support vehicles,which sound really impressive.
Also I have seen pictures of Living History Group Holland with Howitzers.Do they crew yours, or is 1st Airlanding Light Regiment represented by more than one group.If so,it would be amazing if they get together.

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Yes - we (Summer of 44) have the following and can represent either 1st Airlanding Light Regt RA, or 53rd Worcestershire Yeomanry (or indeed US Airborne PFAB):

At least 10 x WW2 Jeeps
At least 10 x WW2 British AB trailers
3 x 75mm Pack Howitzers

We also have a load of other WW2 related junk (vehicles and kit) and can and do represent other units as and when there is a call.

Two of the aforementioned 75mm Pack Howitzers are guns you will have seen previously in use with the Living History group in Holland - so, unfortunately there arent that many around.

There is still a single 75mm Pack Howitzer in firing order in Holland with the dutch group and perhaps in the future we will be able to get an event going where we can represent a complete troop.

For the time being however we are striving to get teams sorted for all 3 guns owned by SO44 members and get them up to speed for next year's season.

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