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 Post subject: Unusual Jeep front?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:25 am 
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I came across this picture of vehicles belonging to the Canadian Film and Photography Unit. The Jeep in the middle looks "different". Do any of you know what the purpose of the bulky front wings was? Is it unusual or have I just not noticed this before?


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It's a field mod to stop the front wheels throwing up mud in particularly boggy conditions. It was fairly common particularly late 44/45 in NWE.

Was this picture taken after Germany surrendered by any chance?


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The site does not give a date, just the number of the image in the archives: "ZK 1063A; Canadian Film & Photo Unit". The site itself is here: http://www.canadianfilmandphotounit.ca/.

Thank you for your response: it becomes immediately obvious what the structures are for.


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No worries.

The mudguards (or fenders if you are a yank) on a Jeep do not do a very good job of either (guarding or fending)!

I would guess from the white paint on the front of the jeeps this was taken during the immediate post-war period when being spotted in the dark started being more important than not being spotted. You see a lot of pictures of jeeps after April 1945 which have received a fresh coat of shiny paint and markings put on with considerably more care than usually seen during wartime.


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Yes, I did wonder - although my first response was "of course they are painted white for visibility", but that does of course place them somewhere out of the warzone. It could be in the UK, of course, before being shipped across to the Continent, but the environment looks vaguely non-British. Bit hard to tell, really ...


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flammen1 wrote:
but the environment looks vaguely non-British. Bit hard to tell, really ...


I agree. The railway infrastructure looks very non-British, and the low-gradient red tiled buildings in the background look rather European too.


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this is one of patton's jeeps.

it also has a chesterfield sofa fitted for the driver


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lordduvet wrote:
this is one of patton's jeeps.

it also has a chesterfield sofa fitted for the driver


:wink:

The original picture just shouts occupied Germany circa 1945 to me. Building roofs and railway infrastructure aside, you have the shiny vehicles and shiny uniforms (ORs in collar and tie). I'd suggest a candid shot while they pose for a unit 'victory' photograph taken by another photographer just out of shot.

Gavin Birch's book on the Jeep in British Army service has some shots of similar vehicles and poses taken just after the surrender.


Also notice the modified canvas top of the Jeep with the extra mudguards.


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and the trumpets on the bonnet

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Railways are a bit beyond my personal nerd horizon but is the railway indicator not German (or at least Continental)? The picture is taken in summer, towards evening, the troop is facing the sun to get the best light.


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