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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:03 am 
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100% right Paul. I think, if the above poster (big gun) read any of the posts he woud realise Patrick had no intention in changing the firing mechanism or isms, just adding a scope. In no way connected to a firing mechanism.

As long as the proof markings remain then he is fine and the LSR should in theory not touch them as its mounted to the side not on top like the claw mounts or turret mounts.

How is the project going Patrick.

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Indeed, or perhaps just a lack of understanding in what mounting a scope involves?


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Lots of people talk guns but simply don't understand the law.


I hope my reply has given "big gun" an understanding of the law also...



But yes, Patrick, hows the project going? :)





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I think you've missed the point Commando Sniper.
There WAS talk about replacing parts on the rifle and I was merely commenting on that. NO mention about a scope from Me ! Sorry Pal !
I think people who don't know what they talk about are as dangerous as the gun itself. De-act or not. Its not just the firing mechanism you have to tamper with to make it illegal. Be warned Paddy and the less well educated.
Just because you've called yourself "Commando Sniper" ater your favourite infantile computer game hero... Doesn't make you an expert. Pal

I'll await your Mocked 'I've served in Hell... Man" reply . Lmao

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What parts were mentioned as being replaced? This thread has been about mounting scopes. The removal of woodwork to fit mount is fine and drilling to fit scope isnt effecting anything that would alter its deac status.

I can see your point big gun but your pointing something out which doesn't relate to this thread. The only parts mentioned were a safety catch and buttplate all of which are ok to change. However the point may be relevant to people who wish to replace parts that are deactivated like the bolt and barrell. Commando sniper was merely pointing out the fact the scope mounting is fully legal because that was the main question when the thread started.

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I agree, people who come on saying things like "how can I get my de-act to fire blanks" or "I just want it to cycle dummy rounds for the benefit of demonstartion" are a danger, and need to go research the law before they fall foul.

But no, I've not missed the point as far as I can read? The only talk of metalwork replacing on here was the safety lever, which is a non pressure bearing part and not part of the deactivation process, again, a cosmetic change according to the guideline I have from the home office, but, if you are willing to post up evidence to the contrary perhaps we can have more of an informed discussion without resorting to childish playground name calling?






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"will that still mean that I can strip the rifle down, and remove the stock?? Patrick."



The Answer is NO. You CANNOT strip the rifle down and replace safety,s as per conversation. YOU ARE BREAKING THE LAW .
You dont have to just touch the mechanism to fall foul !

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Can you provide any documentation?





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Zzzzzzzzzz .

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Thought not.......





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Big Gun is talking bollocks. Only the pressure bearing parts are deactivated, and it's only those you cannot tamper with. As long as you don't remove, replace or repair any of the deactivated parts, i.e. those that are welded up or cut, you can do what the hell you like.

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Actually you can't. Your talking miffy my friend.
Just ring your local firearms officer and ask.
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Unless by some strange reason it only applies to people living in Surrey ?

Anyway. Back to Sniper thread.
BBC are filming German Sniper D-Day programme for next year ! True story apparently !

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Big Gun - you are talking complete and utter bollocks!

As per Home Office Guidelines - only pressure bearing parts are held under licence and thus require deactivating.

Confirmed by a local Firearms Officer who knows what he's on about unlike yours!

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big gun wrote:
Actually you can't. Your talking miffy my friend.
Just ring your local firearms officer and ask.
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Unless by some strange reason it only applies to people living in Surrey ?


No, it only applies to people who know sod all and whose firearms officers know less. I don't need to call my firearms officer and ask them about it, because I am fully conversant with the applicable laws.

My background: Over two decades in re-enactment, almost three decades in deactivated weapons and having worked as a section 5 armourer, and having dealt with many firearms officers (who, trust me, don't know half of the laws they are meant to uphold).

Your background: Told so by one firearms officer (who, trust me, didn't know half of the laws he is meant to uphold).

I would suggest you seek out the correct home office legislation, then come back and apologise for calling others liars on a subject you know absolutely nothing about.

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Haven't called anyone a liar !
So appologies nowhere.
Dan..... I've no idea what makes YOUR FA Officer better than any other !

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He doesn't talk bollocks, that's what makes him better! What do you bring to the table other than the incorrect words of this police officer?

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big gun wrote:
Haven't called anyone a liar !
So appologies nowhere.
Dan..... I've no idea what makes YOUR FA Officer better than any other !


Mine knows the law unlike you! You seriously need to listen to people on here who know the law and have great experience in this field.

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