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 Post subject: K 98 'Trench Magazine'
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 19:04 pm 
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Anyone know if these high capacity mags were actually ever used in WW2 ? ( if so do pics exist to prove ? )


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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 5:59 am 
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heh sorry for slow reply, yes thery where used in ww2 i have a book on german ww2 k98 sniper varients, theres approx 10 photos of the weapons it clearly states they where issued to "marksmen and snipers" the where issued as is with the mg18 mag fitted ( 25 rounds) but mainly on k98 zf-41 combo's , so to do it right youd have to have a scope i guess. i'll post some pictures of my rig later.


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That's great, thanks for the intel, I had pretty much concluded that they were a bit mythical as far as WW2 was concerned but couldn't find a def yes or no anywhere ! .....I'd be most interested in seeing any pics when you have time to post em ! Cheers..P


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you can get a box mag for a k98 0.0, wonder if they were issued to specialist toops like fallshys and mountain troops, as such a magazine would have been most usefull in the enviroments they fought in.

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I have heard that there were a number of requests for a larger magazine capacity generally, but I think this was poss rather ignored as the Sturmgewehr 'assault rifle' types were being developed with a view to widespread introduction...I was by my original post trying to find out how widely ( or if at all ) the extended mags were used in reality ( I've not seen any wartime pics of them in use myself )....You'd think it would have been an obvious easy quick fix, and just right for the type of troops you mention .. and anyone else for that matter ! ( 5 rounds or 20 ? ...I'll have 20 please ! )


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would be realy handy for fallsys, I protray a unit of them and our drop ammo capacity is naff, having a 20 round mag in our guns would give us around 3 mags extra ammo in one go, that would have gone down rather well in casino.

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Indeed, it would seem to be a 'no brainer' ..but there really doesn't seem to be much concrete evidence for it's actual use, hence my enquiry ! .. one would doubtless attract criticism, ( probably rightly ) spamming around with one fitted to one's K98 without some decent provenance !


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i'll get the info from the sniper book and add it to this post later

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thats a g53 magazine is it not, or is just very similar, I can see how that mag would have made a huge difference, if not helped to turn the tide if it had been put into mass use.

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Nice pics of your kit ,the mag is a beast !... It'd be great to see anything contemporary too..cheers!


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A variant of limited issue, some pictorial evidence of it's use in the Leningrad blockade entrenched positions. One of our unit members modified one of his K98ks, found it quite clumsy in use, except in a static role.

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I've always been intrigued by this one...

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Mind you it could be a partisan armourer conversion they seem to have been fairly talented men.

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That's a great pic!... Interesting to see in Soviet use too..I was hoping for a few genuine WW2 photos to show up..Cheers for that Comrade !


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pete the dog wrote:
That's a great pic!... Interesting to see in Soviet use too..I was hoping for a few genuine WW2 photos to show up..Cheers for that Comrade !


It's a picture of a partisan brigade - the original is a much bigger photo. It's origin is a matter of guesswork. It's clearly on a German straight bolt Mauser. The presence of the thing in the butt for taking down the bolt confirms that for me. It could be out of war reserve stocks (a WW1 capture). The partisans appear to have received a fair bit of that as, presumably, ammunition was easier for them to obtain. Or, as I said it could be a partisan armourer conversion all the pictures of original trench magazines I've seen are slab sided and that isn't.

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There's a few mauser rifles there, could poss be vz 24 czech , looking at the long groove in stock...these were used by German troops alongside the K98 and no doubt fell into Soviet hands on occasion, I don't know much about the partisans, if they were a partisan brigade they were no doubt a large organised unit rather than small independant groups acting on their own initiative...it's a really interesting subject I will have to give it some study ! Thanks again for that ! P


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I found a pic of a couple of partisan types again with Mauser rifles, look like old WW1 long G98s or something, clearly a lot of this older stuff was available to them anyway.. These 2 lads seem to be fairly at ease with the German soldier on the right, poss they're working with the Germans here ( unless it's a prisoner )..The 'footwear' is interesting too ! ( ..now this would be a nice economical impression to do :D ! )


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