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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2005 8:27 am 
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Hi to all,

What is everyone's views on Russian captured and refurbished K98K's?

Are they good collectors weapons?

Say your opinions.

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You want to talk to Bryn (Baggypants) about that.

He has one and it took a fair amount of work to get it back to fash spec after the Soviets made it Uzbekproof by bluing everything :D

If you put the time in you can get a nice shiny K98 like Bryn's

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As Andy says, it takes a bit of graft, but stripping off the horrible red shellac and refinishing the stock, removing the electro-pencilling and re-blueing the bolt parts etc., and taking the take-down discs and butt plate back to bare steel will bring great results :D

The Russian Capture Kar98k's are in very good nick too, so you end up with a relatively new looking rifle. There are some pics of mine and others at:

http://wwiireenacting.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3669

My Kar98k came from Ryton Arms. The stock was deepest dark red in colour when I got it, and the bolt parts and mag plate were electro pencilled. The sear and rear bolt parts on mine are now blued, but the bolt is still "in the white". It seems both blued and bare steel bolts are known to happen.

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How much did your K98 cost?


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£190 from Ryton :)

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I'm also looking into getting my hands on a Russian K98, where are some good places to buy 'em from?

Ryton Arms has two:
http://www.sc-1.co.uk/rytonarms/NextPre ... =all&sqr=5

Anyone dealt with Machine Gun Nest?
http://www.machinegunnest.co.uk/Mauser%20K98.htm

Hmm, £280 compared to £180/£215 :?

Is the difference justifiable?


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high flyer wrote:
What is everyone's views on Russian captured and refurbished K98K's?
Are they good collectors weapons?.


Try to find some for sale in the world that didn't come from Russia.
I know of one source in Europe who has a warehouse full of them and they are asking about £1000 each. So I would guess that the Russian ones are the only collectors weapon available.

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Hi all,

I know that all Russian captured K98K's were all stripped and "refurbished". Unfortunately, the Russians had a thing of re-bluing everything and that reddish stock colour staining. They also interchanged parts from other K98K's and stuck them on other rifles. So you end up with a rifle with different serial numbers....that's the only problem.

However, I do agree that they are in pretty good condition!

BaggyPants: Your very nice rifle which was supplied from Ryton has a cleaning rod.... Is it repro? Didn't all most Russian captured k98k's have the rod missing? Not to mention the trigger guard locking screw and other small parts.

Alex_Kolod: Ryton Arms always sell things much cheaper....cheap and high quality collectors weapons, I personally don't think there's a catch.

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high flyer wrote:
So you end up with a rifle with different serial numbers....that's the only problem.


Yeah and how many "German" K98's are all matching serial numbers...

Even the an*lly retentive Germans swapped parts around when they needed the thing to work!

If you want a minty K98 with all matching serials, don't buy one of these, spend you $2000 elsewhere.

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Yes, Kozlov, I do agree parts might have been changed around when the weapon needed refurbishment from the Germans.

However, the majority of Russian captured K98K's were Arsenal Refurbished after the war by the Russians and parts were interchanged. They changed parts even when they didn't needed to be changed, most probably more than the Germans did.....

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I don't think it went on too much, I mean on their own weapons the serial numbers all seem to match - certainly I don't have anything thats been swapped around...

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I bought the " all matching " from Machine gun nest, well worth the money I think. bit of cleaning up to do, but nothing serious. :D


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high flyer wrote:
BaggyPants: Your very nice rifle which was supplied from Ryton has a cleaning rod.... Is it repro? Didn't all most Russian captured k98k's have the rod missing? Not to mention the trigger guard locking screw and other small parts.


The cleaning rod is a repro that came with the rifle, the trigger housing locking screws I got from eBay, the forsight cover came from Ryton as well :)

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Certainly what I thought, I knew that Ryton do supply repro rods and other items. Which is quite good really as they don't come with one. If only they do the trigger guard locking screws......eBay is an alternative like BaggyPants said for anyone who needs them. :)

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Oops!

Sorry, Ryton do sell trigger guard locking screws, well at least now they do. My mistake lol.

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high flyer wrote:
Oops!

Sorry, Ryton do sell trigger guard locking screws, well at least now they do. My mistake lol.


Make sure that info isn't off their website. I checked with them a couple of weeks ago, but their supplier has let them down, so unless they've received a new shipment very recently, they ain't.


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