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Author:  bas [ Sun Nov 11, 2007 21:06 pm ]
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2ad82recon wrote:
So what does a "straight" mag for a PPsH41 look like then ?



In a nutshell the box magazine for the PPSh-41 has a distinctive square top so that it fits in the wide magazine-well of the PPSh.

PPSh-41 (from www.ppsh41.com)

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PPS-43:

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Author:  2ad82recon [ Sun Nov 11, 2007 21:14 pm ]
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Thanks for the picture Bas....from that it looks like my rare slab sided mag for the PPsh41 is actually a Chinese one........:-(

Oh well could always use it if i ever start re enacting Korea then...:-(

regards

Lloyd

Author:  bas [ Sun Nov 11, 2007 21:30 pm ]
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Sorry to hear that Lloyd.

But to be honest the PPSh looks kinda naked without its' drum ;)

Author:  2ad82recon [ Sun Nov 11, 2007 21:32 pm ]
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Thats true Bas..and it is to be used as a captured weapon in my SS "Nordland" impression anyway.

So it will be more "typical" as you say with the drum.

Thanks for all your help mate

Regards

Lloyd

Author:  REME 245 [ Mon Nov 12, 2007 8:19 am ]
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The sling which came with my PPS-43 from Ryton Arms was war-time dated.

I have not looked at their PPS-41 slings if indeed there is a difference.

Author:  gliderinf [ Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:25 am ]
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Quote =
"The weapon is fed from an arch shaped, 35-round box magazine that is interchangeable with box magazines used with the PPSh-41."

Author:  bas [ Mon Nov 12, 2007 19:48 pm ]
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gliderinf wrote:
Quote =
"The weapon is fed from an arch shaped, 35-round box magazine that is interchangeable with box magazines used with the PPSh-41."


Source of quote please?

I have both a functioning PPSh-41 and a PPS-43 and I can assure you that the magazines are not interchangeable.

Your source is wrong.

Author:  Viktor [ Mon Nov 12, 2007 20:10 pm ]
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bas wrote:
gliderinf wrote:
Quote =
"The weapon is fed from an arch shaped, 35-round box magazine that is interchangeable with box magazines used with the PPSh-41."


Source of quote please?

I have both a functioning PPSh-41 and a PPS-43 and I can assure you that the magazines are not interchangeable.

Your source is wrong.


100% you are correct Comrade..... :D

Author:  2ad82recon [ Mon Nov 12, 2007 20:17 pm ]
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Lyndons got it wrong...Lyndons got it wrong....ner ner ner ner ner !!!!!!!...:-)

Has anyone got a correct slab sided mag for a PPsH41 please ?

Comrade Viktor please accept my sincere apologies over the distresing theft of one of Unle Joes finest performing weapons.
I will make sure its clean and fully functioning and ready for inspection....;-)

regards

Lloyd

Author:  gliderinf [ Mon Nov 12, 2007 22:15 pm ]
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How do I know, I dont do bloomin Ruskies :oops:

Seems rather silly for them to make pretty much the same thing - but not interchangeable ?

Anyone want to answer the first question then - about the 41 marked slab mags ?

Author:  bas [ Mon Nov 12, 2007 23:20 pm ]
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gliderinf wrote:
Anyone want to answer the first question then - about the 41 marked slab mags ?


I don't think Lloyd actually said that his magazines were marked "41". He asked if "41" (as in PPSh-41) slab sided magazines are post war:

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So next question then mate...in a recent thread i read that slab sided "41" stick mags were post war non Russian...is this correct too...:-0


Which the general concensis is that they are.

Author:  2ad82recon [ Mon Nov 12, 2007 23:25 pm ]
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Yes thanks Bas...that is correct.......my grammer and manner of asking were incorrect.

Bas please can you check that PPsH on the for sale thread...my slab mags are EXACTLY like that...come to think of it...my PPsH41 is in exactly the same condition.

Must be a batch come in from China......these are almost unfired weapons

Regards

Lloyd

Author:  bas [ Tue Nov 13, 2007 0:17 am ]
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I'd love to be able to offer an expert opinion Lloyd, but my interest in PPSh's more or less starts and finishes with Russian WWII ones. So I only know that the accepted wisdom is that during WWII only ribbed magazines were used.

One possible reason could be to avoid confusion between them and the magazines for the PPS-43.

Without seeing the markings it would be difficult to know what country that gun came from and who made the magazines. Even then it is possible that the guns are Russian manufactured and the magazines locally manufactured to replace any that were lost?

Sorry I can't offer much help there.

Author:  2ad82recon [ Tue Nov 13, 2007 0:22 am ]
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Sorry Bas....the gun IS legit 1945 dated Russian....Star in Shield marking on Barrel guard.....and 3M 6155 serial number stamps all over it.

Its the magazines i am curious about..those pattern magazines are exactly like the one i have?

All the best

Lloyd

Author:  bas [ Tue Nov 13, 2007 0:53 am ]
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Lloyd I appreciate your gun is a legit WWII Soviet manufactured one; I was referring to the one the trader. Sorry, I should have been more specific.

My point was more that your gun could have been sent off to any one of the Soviet supported countries that used and manufactured PPSh's where the original magazines were replaced with locally manufactured ones. And in absence of any markings I'd be hard pressed to identify the country of origin.

As an example my 1944 dated 91/30 sniper came to me with a Polish PU scope on it. The rifle is all matching, but has obviously seen a couple of re-furbishments in it's life.

Author:  Corporal Bang [ Sat Dec 01, 2007 19:12 pm ]
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So, can anyone tell from the rather lousy photo on the e-bay item what this stick mag is for? He has it advertised as a mag for a PPsh41 OR PPs43...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RED-ARMY-WWII-PPS ... dZViewItem

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