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 Post subject: Chinese PPSh41
PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 21:24 pm 
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I have an old spec PPSh41 that has 'China' as Country of Origin on the Deactivation certificate. It came with a stick magazine which slots in and out easily and which is held by the mag catch. I also have a Russian drum mag that goes in with a bit of a shove , the catch locks shut but the mag drops out when the trigger is pulled and the bolt closes. Were Russian and Chinese guns made to different measurements? Is this why the mag won't stay in or is there something I'm missing? The gun is dated 1951 and has all matching serial numbers but no markings other than a capital E under the serial number and '01' in a circle above it.

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According to Bill Berg's site those markings are Hungarian.

http://www.ppsh41.com/markings1.htm

Generally speaking there's a bit of 'getting one to fit' with the drum mags. Allegedly in wartime they'd put all the mags into a big heap and go through trying them out in each weapon.

Thinking about it this is probably a result of compression between the front of the mag and the main body producing slightly different 'depths'. This is just an educated guess on my part though, happy to be corrected.

Not sure why the mag would drop out when the bolt goes forward other than it not engaging properly or a worn catch.

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That's right on the button. The small mark underneath I assumed was the de-activation mark. Thanks for your help.

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I've just found the cause of the problem. When I stripped it last time I didn't put in the barrel far enough and the top of the mag was hitting the bottom of the breech. All sorted now.

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You can remove the barrel??!!!

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Yes.. It's really old spec done by R.I.F.L.E.

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