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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 11:57 am 
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Just the word explosives make me smile :twisted: .... not that im a pyromaniac at all! BUT i was wondering if you fine educated fellows of the forum could help me a little. Im looking to make up some repro explosives as a pack filler and a bit of extra OHHHH factor when on a display somewhere and also some time pencils.... does anywhere do repro ones already or repro time pencils at all?

I know SOF do repro 1/2 lb TNT blocks for £5 which look ok but the say property of USA engeneering on them if i remember rightly... would the british/commonwealth forces have hand those through the lend lease program or otherwise? thanks a million chaps...regards, Red


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help me obi wan kenobi your my only hope! sorry wrong thing.... lol


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Motion Picture Props sell repro (obviously!) Nobles PE808. Don't know of a maker of time pencils but am looking into something like that myself at the mo......


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the british were making theyre own explosives i think, can easily make some with cut up broom handles and brown paper with PE No.2 printed in black on it.

timer pencils, hmmm dunno where you can get repros from as i dont think anyone makes them, and originals (can) be expensive although ive known some to be found cheap as chips (trawl around stoneleigh).

http://www.4commando.org.uk/gallery/eve ... G_1798.JPG

picture from our website, can see the det cord and timer pencils in the green tin and the black gun cotton tube aswell.

hope it helps :D

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this is a silly question but other than time pencils was there other simpler ways as of delayed detonation?


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yup, there was detonation cord, baically a black waxy cord with gunpowder filled inside that burned slowly at a steady rate, so you coud cut a certain length knowing roughly how long it would take to burn down.

theres also the method of electrical detonation aswell using blasting caps and wire, although ive never seen a british electrical detonator though.

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where would i be able to research ww2 explosives etc? and how much cord would be used for a certain amount of time etc? all your help is greatly appreciated! regards, Red


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hhmmm, maybe the royal engineers manual or the home guard training manual on explosives (is it)?

may list in there the different lengths for different times, other than that i have no idea sorry, maybe someone else knows?

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either way Paul your help has been very valuale, thank you once again.


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Airborne_Commando wrote:
this is a silly question but other than time pencils was there other simpler ways as of delayed detonation?


The other thing to bear in mind with time pencils is "time". Times of delay included 30 mins, 90 mins, 5 hours, 10 hours and 20 hours, all subject to variation depending on ambient temperature (there was a 10 minute pencil but according to my source (period notes of a RE captain) this was only used in training). So if at any time your re-enactment role ever calls for an almost instant explosion, time pencils probably aren't the only way to go.

Paul, you mention DetCord: have you got a better description or an image as I'm wondering about making some repro???? :D


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Me and Woodlander ARE NOT pyromaniacs I must stress... *Nudges Woodlander* Just keep smiling, they'll never suspect a thing


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PM me bud i can provide you with a load of dummy TNT and instructions on making your own ;)

timer pencils, their used to be a dealer that sold a couple of tins of them, he's bound to be at stoneleigh so keep an eye out fer him (if i can ever remember his name)

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LOL, :lol: oh we believe you :roll: swat team green to fire

i know american det cord is 0.2inches thick with a black powder core wrapped in fiber cord and them wrapped in a waxy weatherproof outer covering, so british stuff cant be much different.

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Cheers Paul. :D


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nothing like the smell of detonated nazi's in the morning *inhail* Ahhhhhh thanks for the help guys... im slowly getting there now


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well in the comming months i should be abke to post pics of bits of stuff as i make it, doing a combined british and american explosives display for jedburghs.

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