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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 11:51 am 
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Does anyone have any tips on how to removed the "insides" of a No.36 Mills Grenade?

The plug unscrews Ok but the "centrepiece" doesn't want to come out. I am a bit reluctant to use too much force as it is made of Zinc? I am hoping that someone has some sage advice?

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Unscrew the base plug, the timing pencil, fuse cord and detonator just are held in by the base plug

http://www.lexpev.nl/images/no36millsdet1.jpg

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Penetrating oil. Lots of it. And you'll also need the base plug removal tool, it'll locate into the two recesses on the inner tube.

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And make sure it's not a live one eh !


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It's not a live one :lol:

I saw the tool on the Dug Up website - £25 and it says that it is not for the removal of old components...maybe just to cover themselves?

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If you've already got the base plug out, then you don't need the tool.

The detonator assembly is not fixed, unless its corroded.

Mind you, if its corroded... how is it safe? How do you know?

Just FYI, you can loose a fair chunk of your hand just from the detonator...

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From the description I think it is the zinc center piece that the OP wants to remove. Not the detonator or base plug.

The center piece is screwed in place and holds the striker, main spring and fuse, inside the body of the grenade.
As I've already stated, to remove this you will need the base plug removal tool and plenty of penetrating oil.

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Yes, it's just the zinc centre piece - no detonator or fuse are present.

Does "OP" stand for "Old Pillock" or something similar? :lol:

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Alysloper wrote:
Does "OP" stand for "Old Pillock" or something similar?


No, nothing as discourteous as that - it just stands for "original poster", i.e. the forum member who started the topic and make the first post in it.


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Forgive me for being skittish!

Thanks for all the help on this query - looks like I need to buy the special tool

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Rather than splurge £25 to undo one part, It's likely to be a tool that one could easily manufacture DIY given basic metalwork skills perhaps ?


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Yeees - I fear I haven't really got any metalwork skills!...


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I managed to undo mine using a pair of pliers with rubber tubing over the jaws to protect the Zinc.Remember...leftie loosie, rightie tightie.


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I've removed a centre tube by using suitably sized round pieces of metal to fit in the striker and detonator tubes (screwdrivers, other tools, etc.) and spacers to make sure the the thinner of the two is gripped evenly in a vice. Make sure plenty of oil is in the threads as the zinc is softer and easier to damage than the iron body.

I have a trickier problem - trying to remove a rust seized base plug from a WWI No.36 drill grenade. Still haven't managed it.

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