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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 17:01 pm 
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About ten years ago i had a good 2 inch mortar collection with all the types of rounds HE, smoke, star shells etc the carriers, late and early war and other accesories. I also had a loverly 2 inch mortar, an early P&S manufactured model that was a base plate model converted to a spade plate model. How i regret selling the collection, now i want to start again.
While looking at 2 inch mortars these days apart from the huge price increase, i noticed that there are some dodgy looking 2 inch mortars out there sold by D&B militaria. The finish on the base on the trigger bodies are realy rough in finish, sand cast i suspect but with casting flaws which i would think would not come up to the standards expected to be used in the British army. Are these mortars an indian copy of the 2 inch mortar or are they fake or genuine, they certainly don't match up to the standard of the one i had and the other war time ones i have handled. Any one have one?


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when I spoke to D and B at war and peace they said the mechanisms were wartime dated internally


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So the internals are original meaning the lock work, everything else then i asume is made up and not original.
A friend of mine was told on the quiet by D&B that the barrels are dummy. As for the breech end they are so roughly cast with flaws that they would not pass goverment inspection for use in the military, i suspect the breeches are dummy to. It seems that everyone is selling these and passing them of as original. Barrels should be marked up with date, mark and manufacture details. I have inspected them and personaly i think its a rip off to be sold part deact and part dummy or even all dummy and pay full wack price, i do wonder what other deacts have been done this way. There was mention on here that World Wide Arms Sten gun stocks are not original.


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are all the barrels dated,?I have often wondered as they were used for so long post war it would be good to know where to look for dates etc
cheers ,Nigel


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ford369 wrote:
are all the barrels dated,?I have often wondered as they were used for so long post war it would be good to know where to look for dates etc
cheers ,Nigel

All barrels should have serial number date and maker even on post war models at least, some times the breech has these details I believe on very early mortars. The Dummy D&B barrels have no serations around the bottom of the barrel for the barrel latch to lock in either, so be warned. Also watch out for ham fisted crooked stampings as all markings should be neat and uniform as stamped at the factory ie type and make, serial number and date.


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saw a ccouple of 2 inch mortars for sale at dallas dig out at the weekend,thay had the serrations but I couldn't spot any markings,could these be slightly better fake barrels? the other thing that baffles me is some have a firing lever others have a wheel,is this early and later models?


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ford369 wrote:
saw a ccouple of 2 inch mortars for sale at dallas dig out at the weekend,thay had the serrations but I couldn't spot any markings,could these be slightly better fake barrels? the other thing that baffles me is some have a firing lever others have a wheel,is this early and later models?

Personaly i would avoid a 2" mortar with no barrel markings to be on the safe side, serations or not. There were about three types of firing lever/wheel. The wheel type were designed when the mortar had the larger base plate on earlier models, they also continued to be used on the later mortars with the spade plate along with the levers that came a bit later. There was a combination type semi lever and wheel seen the the 1960s manual.


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