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The more jumps you make, the shorter you get! :lol:
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Does anyone have a fragment of a book in which there is a fragment of memorries in which some soldiers dercribe fighting a tank with Boys or Piat or some other inf AT weapon?I need them :cry: I would be wery gratiful for scans or very accurate fragments with bibliographical data.


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Meczyk - In the book 'Arnhem Lift' by Louis Hagen I seem to remember he describes taking on German armour in Wolfheze with a PIAT.
I will look in my copy. If you PM me your address I will mail you any extracts I can find.

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These are all VC winners associated with PIATs

Major John Keefer Mahoney

http://www.wwii.ca/page3.html

Smokey Smith:

http://www.nwha.org/news_3Q2001/news_page7.html

Robert Henry Cain:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Henry_Cain

CSM Hollis, Green Howards - just scroll down the page:

http://www.arrse.co.uk/cpgn2/Forums/vie ... =next.html

Hope that's enough for you......

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In the chaos of battle, when the ground beneath your feet is a slurry of blood, puke, p**s and the entrails of friends and enemies alike, it's easy to turn to the gods for salvation. But it's soldiers who do the fighting, and soldiers who do the dying, and the gods never get their feet wet.

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http://www.lancs-fusiliers.co.uk/featur ... rsonvc.htm

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Thanks.Running towards a tank with a PIAT :shock: I would never suspect that such things could happened. Oggy, "Hope that's enough for you......", hmmm, how do You think? :D


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Thanks.Running towards a tank with a PIAT :shock: I would never suspect that such things could happened. Oggy, "Hope that's enough for you......", hmmm, how do You think? :D
Allways eager to help.....That's only the VCs.......

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if all you have is a POLSTEN

Reach for the mills
Better than a sticky bomb......

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In the chaos of battle, when the ground beneath your feet is a slurry of blood, puke, p**s and the entrails of friends and enemies alike, it's easy to turn to the gods for salvation. But it's soldiers who do the fighting, and soldiers who do the dying, and the gods never get their feet wet.

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Quite effective when tucked into the nose of a Mosquito, I understand!

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That was a 6 pounder Mollins Gun.....nicknaned TseTse - Bigger kick than a Mosquito.....

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In the chaos of battle, when the ground beneath your feet is a slurry of blood, puke, p**s and the entrails of friends and enemies alike, it's easy to turn to the gods for salvation. But it's soldiers who do the fighting, and soldiers who do the dying, and the gods never get their feet wet.

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Ah, sorry - you got me.
Was mixing my Polstens and Molins.:oops:
Feel a bit ill now.
But thanks for pointing out the (schoolboy) error. :roll:

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The Boyes was issue kit right through the war, there are photos of them in use for their penatrative abilities not just against tanks. They were also evaluated against walls and fortifications. There are photos of them used in Malaya firing into buildings to kill Japanese snipers and also the same in 1944 and 45 against snipers and troops manouvering in house to house fighting in Europe.
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Every army who had AT-rifles used them in many ways. There were used as anti-personnel, anti-equipment , and anti-aicraft (soviet PTRS and PTRD were used in this way, this was described in official manuals). Halder planned to use Panzerbuchse to penetrate walls during the "Seelowe". In the end, AT rifles were just big rifles :) Well, maybye exept Solothurn family, Lahti and Type 97.


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The first AT Rifles were in fact 13mm Mauser Rifles......

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