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Has anyone got a deact barrel that maybe someone in the know could make moulds to make resin or rubber copies?

Not bothered if any moving parts like the carrying handle just want something that looks half decent :(


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I concur with Debs, to be honest - you could produce the vast majority of this stuff utilising a lather- the relics ones are just plain c*ap - the one Big Chris, our Bren gunner, had was in pieces before the end of the week and all he'd done was put it in the spares pouch and carry it on a march in Normandy for 7 or so miles !!! Absolute rubbish for the price tag.

Wood barrel - truend wood or metal flash cover, sheet metal handle loop, turned handle.

Given the facilities (which I no longer have access to) I'm fairly sure I could run you one off and, to be honest, whatever I produced would be cheaper and more robust than the 'professionals'. We've a lot of talented and creative people here, folks, we just tend to open our wallets rather than untilising our skills.

Let me ponder, chaps - will take some measurements and drawings this weekend at Crich.

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wouldn't be much good tucked through your small pack !!


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What about casting it though... like Karl does with the replicas? That would produce the 'major' part of the barrel.

Again.. the trouble is having the facilities :(

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Deborah Foreman wrote:
What about casting it though... like Karl does with the replicas? That would produce the 'major' part of the barrel.

Again.. the trouble is having the facilities :(



This what the guy I was chatting to at Chatham was going to do. He was then going to source the 'furniture',..... .sights, handle etc. (remember I mentioned a MK II to him.......)

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Sourcing those bits could be as tricky as sourcing the barrel anyway :(

Keep us updated though, its still progress :)

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Deborah Foreman wrote:
Sourcing those bits could be as tricky as sourcing the barrel anyway :(

Keep us updated though, its still progress :)



Well the guy knew folks at the 1st traders tables along the right side of the building, who were selling de-acts,......they reckoned to be able to supply him these bits, .......and also lend a barrel for him to get a mold from;.........so here's hoping. :lol:

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In the UK it is ILLEGAL to own a real bren barrell. So I'm afraid your going to have to put up with a fiber glass one, as am I.


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There are some deac bren barrels about, very few though. Are they legally held?

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Are there not DP (Drill Purpose) barrels kicking about?

When I was a nipper in the cadets we had the LMG (Bren in 7.62). The DP's would strip fine...were basically de-acts but with (I think) working parts that had been built specifically for drill and training. I appreciate that a 7.62 LMG is not a .303 Bren, but did the latter ever appear as a DP version or did they just use the real deal? During wartime I assume that a dummy Bren - or even dummy working parts - would be a luxury, but what about post-war?

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Are there not DP (Drill Purpose) barrels kicking about?

When I was a nipper in the cadets we had the LMG (Bren in 7.62). The DP's would strip fine...were basically de-acts but with (I think) working parts that had been built specifically for drill and training. I appreciate that a 7.62 LMG is not a .303 Bren, but did the latter ever appear as a DP version or did they just use the real deal? During wartime I assume that a dummy Bren - or even dummy working parts - would be a luxury, but what about post-war?

Just a thought

DP BRENs were around, however, they're still Classified as Service Weapons - They may be shagged out, with Phosphor Bronze working parts, but they need to be de-acced to current standards, which means welding the barrel to the receiver :cry:

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Deborah Foreman wrote:
Sourcing those bits could be as tricky as sourcing the barrel anyway :(

Keep us updated though, its still progress :)



Well the guy knew folks at the 1st traders tables along the right side of the building, who were selling de-acts,......they reckoned to be able to supply him these bits, .......and also lend a barrel for him to get a mold from;.........so here's hoping. :lol:


As soon as they "lend" someone a barrel on its own they are committing a section 5 firearms offence, supplying a banned live part for a section five firearm to someone else. I am amazed they have not thought of the consequences of their actions, because if the police did a raid on the person who has the intention of the mold then he could be in very serious bother, possession of constituent parts of a section 5 machine gun.

Personally I'd step away from any of the parties involved in this project. Big steps!
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One of my suppliers is currently stocking these. They will not be for sale for a while, but if you email me in about a months time is should be able to supply you with any amount.

Hope that helps!
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Would the VCR bill apply to a replica Bren barrel? I'd like one, but I'm not a reenactor.

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Prior to 1994 I believe there were some legally deativated barrels sold which had proof house certificates.

I assume they are still legal.


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Would the VCR bill apply to a replica Bren barrel? I'd like one, but I'm not a reenactor.

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I would assume that they do not come under the VCR bill, however I am not certain. I know however that there are deactivated bren barrels available, because my mate has one, however I would think that they are quite hard to get hold of.

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