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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 17:57 pm 
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I seem to remember seeing fiberglass copies for sale on t'internet for about £38 last year.

I'll be blowed if I can find the website now.

Anyone able to help?

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this one maybe ?

http://www.relics.org.uk/p0219.htm


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The very one!!

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Was speaking with someone at Chatham, re the making of resin MKII spare barrels;.............I'm awaiting the outcome of said conversation, in anticipation.

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LeeEnfield wrote:
Was speaking with someone at Chatham, re the making of resin MKII spare barrels;.............I'm awaiting the outcome of said conversation, in anticipation.


Sounds good as dont fancy a relics one but would love a spare to go in the holdall with the other bits :wink:


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lipton wrote:
LeeEnfield wrote:
Was speaking with someone at Chatham, re the making of resin MKII spare barrels;.............I'm awaiting the outcome of said conversation, in anticipation.


Sounds good as dont fancy a relics one but would love a spare to go in the holdall with the other bits :wink:



Aye, was my thinking the same lines;...........having walked round Chatham asking various deact sellers about deac barrels,........and the legal position off such, these days,.........no - one had one for sale, and most thought I'd not get a real one, now.
I've not seen a Relic's one,..................and they're based in my home town; NOT saying anything against them.

Will keep posted re any info recieved, although he did say it would be a little while.

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whats wrong with the Relic's barrels?

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garibaldino wrote:
whats wrong with the Relic's barrels?

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Not seen one in the flesh but if its like any of their other products then :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

Dont know if they have a retail shop but i would advise trying to see one before actualy parting with your cash.


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Can you tell me more about their other products please?

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They are either made from cheap plastic - which just looks wrong, or from wood - not quality made. The bren barrel is more like a toy than something you'd be proud to leave on display at an event. Their 'bre' drum mag is also i believe just the vickers one with a chopped up bren magazine shoved in so it fits to a bren.

Its all nasty, bad quality stuff thats stupidly overpriced.

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Deborah Foreman wrote:
They are either made from cheap plastic - which just looks wrong, or from wood - not quality made. The bren barrel is more like a toy than something you'd be proud to leave on display at an event. Their 'bre' drum mag is also i believe just the vickers one with a chopped up bren magazine shoved in so it fits to a bren.

Its all nasty, bad quality stuff thats stupidly overpriced.


Couldnt have put it better myself Debs :) :) :)


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It was probably you who told me most of that! :P

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Ok, don't touch with a rusty barge pole, received!!

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I would think someone who can use a metal lathe well would be able to knock up a nice mk1 shiney barrel fairly easy. Then just adding the other details like a wooden handle etc... again.. wood lathe - fairly easy i would imagine.

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If it was "fairly" easy then there would be loads of replicas out there I think :)

For the barrel turning up on a lathe, yes maybe, but then what about sourcing the flash hider, sight leafs, sight protector, barrel carrying handle and the assembly that goes round the barrel for the handle, and swivels round? Thats about another 30 odd parts including screws and such. Also, to the turned barrel, you need to make sure you can machine the slots for the barrel on the bottom, the screw rings that fix it to the gun at the end etc.

Last I heard was it would cost at LEAST £70 to do, probably more when factoring in buying the other original parts. And that was from a bren expert.

Incidentally, the Bren Drum magazine. It was developed by guess what - borrowing a 100 round Vickers mag and sticking a bren 30 round magazine feed on the bottom. Not a lot different to the Relics replica. Ok it isnt perfect no, BUT an original will now cost you around £375. Last ones on the market were from the states at $750 each. I bought one from Holland for £325. I had a set of the 4 in their transit case which I sold for £1200 and it was considered a bit of a bargain then. [that was 2 yrs ago].
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"Fairly easy" to someone who can use a lathe - I know how to use a lathe and I would place money on it that I could make one up. Trouble is.. i have no access to a lathe anymore. Same goes for the woodwork - its easy, done the same way as you would make something like stair bannisters.

The other parts you 'cut' from the appropriate sheet metal and shape / weld / attach etc etc. It can be done. Theres also casting, again that can be done on a few parts.

I've done most of that before for a lewis gun and all its bits.

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