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It seems the cliffs are still used by climbers:
http://www.javu.co.uk/Climbing/NewRoutes/WestCornwall/WhirlPoolSlabs.shtml

Map Here: http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&X=145000&Y=37500&width=700&height=400&gride=151834.380690891&gridn=40373.5354566147&srec=0&coordsys=gb&db=freegaz&addr1=&addr2=&addr3=&pc=&advanced=&local=&localinfosel=&kw=&inmap=&table=&ovtype=&zm=0&scale=50000&multimap.x=89&multimap.y=262

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Hi to all,

Does anyone else have any images or written infomation supporting that the British Commandos used the 1928A1 Thompson with HORIZONTAL front grip during the D-Day landings or any other operation?

A further thanks to TALLERTHANBETTY and RAMC181 for the great info on the "Brandyball" exercice which i'm now also intersted in.

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here are few more pictures of use

the books they maybe of use to you i know of

Osprey Army Commando's 1940-45
D-day Commando history of 48 RM commando by Ken ford
Arctic snow toDust of Normandy shows 30 commando later to become 30 AU using them

Also 10 IA Commando had them. there are pictures showing dutch and belguim troops issued with them.

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Hi ya trunks,

Wow, this is becoming quite a collection! Thanks very much for the other excellent images. Thanks again to everyone who has contributed so far. But, if you do have any more photos of British Commandos using the Thompson with HORIZONTAL front grip please do post them! The more evidence I get the better. =)

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and couple more

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Hi,

Just out of interest are all the images of British Commandos? I noted that some are clearly British but other images are not so clear and are some dutch?

From the books you mentioned or stills from DVDs?

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my first post of pictures are film stills and stated in the post are from the films By sea and land a film about RM commando's after D-day. and Rough weather landing about 4 (army) command on excercise in cornwall.

the pictures in my 2nd post are of british commando and are were found while surfing the net. and were in a number of books i have on operation Overlord.

the 3rd set of pictures are of french and dutch commando's and these pictures can be found on the net and in books.

Osprey Army Commando's 1940-45
D-day Commando history of 48 RM commando by Ken ford
Arctic snow toDust of Normandy shows 30 commando later to become 30 AU using them

For king and Country by harlen glenn it has a section on commando's and has the picture of the dutch commandos i posted.

Also many of the books on D-day i have show pictures of 1st special service brigade on D-day carrying them. if i had a scaner il post them but i have'nt.

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Guys, both the 1928 and 1928A1's could have the vertical grip fitted. The 1928 model was based on the colt navy model, the 1928A1 had minor changes to facilitate faster production, things like ommitting knurling on the actuator and change lever, a 2 piece rivited ejector as opposed to the 1 piece machined item. There arn't to many 1928's around as they made about 50 thousand or so. The horizontal grip (what has been called the M1A1 grip) had been available commercialy for years on the 1921 and 1927 models.


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I never knew there was such a model of Thompson as the 1923 which had a bayonet lug aswell :shock: you learn something every day

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there were some experimental models in .30-06 and .30 m1 carbine! There's an aluminium receiver '28 model in the Pattern room aswell.


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Hi to all,

Now I have some great evidence in the pics you guys sent me thanks to everyone! I can now safely say that some British Commando units certainly did use the M1928A1 Thompson with the all important HORIZONTAL front grip during training and most of all, D-Day.

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