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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 18:39 pm 
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Looking at doing Servicing Commando this year there is plenty of information on history but I'm struggling with head dress
is it Green beret , khaki side cap , raf side cap ?
the book im ready said raf side cap with khaki uniform


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 19:09 pm 
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You need to look through the RAF section, several good threads in there.

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dazb wrote:
...but I'm struggling with head dress is it Green beret

You do realize that RAF Servicing Commandos weren't actual 'Commandos'? They serviced planes.


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They didn't just service aircraft :wink:

http://www.combinedops.com/ROYAL_AIR_SE ... MMANDO.htm

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Ayup Daz, looking at the info i've managed to find it looks like they wore the Khaki BD's, side caps with RAF badge, insignia on BD's was s***e hawks, combined ops and then any rank.

Commando vets website has some detail, not much though buddy.

As far as i know they didn't do Achnacarry so didn't wear the green berets mate, but i stand to be corrected on that.

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Yes I do realize what they did lob I don't look at doing an impression with out reading up on them !
this is why im not sure on the head dress at the moment as they did receive Commando training and spent time at the combined operations centre at Inveraray

Jonny yep your right with the Khaki bds although they did wear RAF Blues during the invasion of Normandy which not surprisingly looked like German field grey after a few hours in the field


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dazb wrote:
...they did receive Commando training...

They did not receive commando training - that was the point that I was trying to make. This has been discussed on here before, but re-enactors will persist with their commando/airborne/etc. fantasies.
They serviced planes.


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I thought the point you were making was that they serviced planes which yes this was their primary task but they worked just behind the front line establishing new airstrips and defending operational ones .

they were trained by Commandos above the normal army / raf standard those who did not meet the standard were sent back to their original units which is why I am asking if they wore the green beret or did they keep the Raf side cap .

I am not fantasising about what these men did or didn't do I am not saying they went in to battle guns blazing and blowing things up im just after the correct information so I can get things right .

most of the information I have so far is from a book written by Tom Arkinson 3210 SC which im taking as fact rather than fiction .


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Hi

Try this chap :wink:
http://www.combinedops.com/ROYAL_AIR_SE ... MMANDO.htm

FS Caps would be my interpretation

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apologies to Trunks, didn't catch that I had posted the same link ............

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Just read Daz they DID receive training at the combined op's training centre Inverary pal.

The detail was vague though, just says they received the trg not the type of trg..???

I'm assuming, it would've been the same regime as the Army commando's received also at Inverary as well as Achnacarry.

Register and try this link mate.
http://www.commandoveterans.org/

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Jonny wrote:
I'm assuming, it would've been the same regime as the Army commando's

Why would you assume that? I'm beginning to wonder if anyone on here actually reads any of the internet links, let alone books, that they recommend.
They serviced planes.


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Rather than just writing they serviced planes why not try being helpful and posting some links to back up what you are saying LOB , the fact is they received training at the combined operations training centre

I am trying to establish what training they received either full or part training from what I know about Inverary it was a landing craft and amphibious warfare centre .


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See below for dates of RAF Regiment training at Achnacarry. Would they would have be presented with green lids upon completion as others were?


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Ammoboots i could hug you for that wee gem. Re them getting green ferrets, mmm they might have been presented them but i dout they would have been allowed to wear them at any reguley raf camp (were rather odd that way). but i shall ask about if they did at the combimed centres.
As for -they just serviced planes- no they also conducted them selfs well in the art of the 4 F's.
Re their uniform, they wore army bds prior to normandy but for that they had to wear raf war service kit (VERY unpopuler with the boys!). the lads in the med wernt allowed to put up their combined ops badges up till post landings because of security. oh n weapon wise dont bothere with the boyes, it never left the truck it was carried in ;)

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What they did was:

At night under the cover of darkness they would sneak on to airfields, refuel and re-arm aircraft, then in the morning when the brylcream boys awoke thier crates were ready.... and no one saw any dirty ground crew....

They would also build runways without anyone noticeing...

Sshh you aint seen me, right...

Ok maybe one should ask why did they use the word 'Commando' if they were 'just' (ok no one was just) RAF ground crew with a Bren gun and a 3 tonner

Was it to confuse the Germans or 21st C re-enactors....

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