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 Post subject: Denix SMLE Vs Deact
PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 23:15 pm 
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Can anyone tell me how different in weight, a deact SMLE is, to a Denix example please?

Also, how do the Denix ones compare?

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 Post subject: Re: Denix SMLE Vs Deact
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Depends what you want to use it for, I would say. The Denix is good for what it is - looks OK at a little distance, and is a lot cheaper than a deac, and is about the right weight. However, I had one and after three years bits started working loose/got broken. If you can afford it, buy a deac - it will only appreciate in value, whereas a Denix can only go down in value.


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Cheers, to be honest its more of a weight issue than anything else.

So, they're of a similar weight..? Do you still have yours?

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From handling a few Denix SMLEs, I'd say they're noticeably (not 'majorly lighter', but more than 'just a bit lighter') lighter than a real SMLE, though no dedicated measurement with a scale have been taken, just me having a Denix in one hand and a de-ac' in the other. This is probably due to the cast pot-metal used in the Denix is less dense and thus lighter than steel, and there's no steel barrel running the length of the gun like the de-ac' has. The barrel at the muzzle end of the Denix is just a short length which finishes into the end of the all-wood stock, there is no weighty metal running though it to the receiver - just an solid wood stock.


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This one as been up before on forum, if your going to use it for drill purposes their not going to take the same hammering has a deact will, or if your doing a battle scenes and bang it about to much, so it all depends on how your going to use it, after saying this, I have held one at Malvern and they look and feel great.

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Can spot em a mile off.
they break
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Im considering them for a physical training exercise. A certain weight needs to be carried, and I'm thinking the weight of the rifle can help. ie the heavier the better. Obviously, a deact would be good, but they are pricey. Denix are a considerable amount less indeed. However, I'm concerned that they may not stand up to the rigours of the exercise.

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Also, just another point, if you're wanting something to fix a bayonet to, I'd not recommend the Denix. The fore-end 'cap' casting may need fettling to get a '07 bayonet to fit, and if used for bayonet practice or 'enthusiastically waved around' the pot-metal casting does break - but the good news is that you can substitute a real-steel No.1 end cap and short length of dummy barrel in its place with relatively little work needed. That won't then break, any they're cheap enough and easy enough to find.


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Thanks, but I won't be fixing a bayonet to it. It'll be strapped to my back, over the shoulder or in my hand. I'm just concerned that it may not be heavy enough.

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I've always thought they were noticeably lighter. They also came across as smaller when I handled them but that might be me! lol!

But other points to note:

- They do not have a safety catch. And so the bolt is very easy to come out.

- You mentioned slinging it. I've not tried it. But I handled a Denix for an afternoon and noticed the middle band, which you put the sling through, does work like an actual rifle. That middle band is tight to keep the wood work in place. On the denix, its just a metal band slid down and you can move it up and down really easily. So I highly doubt slinging it would work.

As people say, depends on the length of time you want it for and what you want to use it for. But personally I think they are terrible and would never cough up for one. But if you are strapped for cash then I can understand.


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Cheers again. It's not a case of necessarily being strapped for cash. I may need to source a number of these@15 and I'm looking for the best deal out there. It's a physical exercise lasting 8-12 hours. And nothing more I'd say. I need to decide wether a Denix is going to be up to the job to be honest. However, given the info on here(thank you) it's looking increasingly likely that deacts are a better bet, in both weight and strength.

Thank you for the info!

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MyAssAmDragon wrote:
Im considering them for a physical training exercise. A certain weight needs to be carried, and I'm thinking the weight of the rifle can help. ie the heavier the better. Obviously, a deact would be good, but they are pricey. Denix are a considerable amount less indeed. However, I'm concerned that they may not stand up to the rigours of the exercise.

Thanks for the input.


carry a breeze block in your rucksack?

also a deact shouldn't lose value after you have done the 12-18 hours walk
a denix almost definitely will lose value within 12 hours

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I have a denix and a mk 4 I'm happy with it and the 4 it is a little lighter, though like you say from a distance it looks ok. That said I also have their STEN and a Beretta 92 plus the real chunk of cake in the form of an AR 15/M16 of which I am pleased as the real ones are just to expensive. So for me at any rate Denix is fine if you are on a budget, great thread though.


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