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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 20:58 pm 
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Very possibly!
With many of the 1st Army setting off for Op' Torch from England, many units would have been equipped with new kit including rifles before setting off.
I've got a superb condition 1942 dated Savage No4 which is one of the best I have seen. No FTR marks so probably hasn't seen much service.
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I have seen a photo somewhere of a No4 being carried by somebody in the Desert, a crusader tank is passing in the background, again perhaps Tunisia though.

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Yeap,
I think that they were certainly in use in Tunisia, probably brought over by the 1st Army from England.
No 4s also appear in many wartime film clips of Sicily & Italy.
Not sure when they first appeared in the Far East. Will have to do some work on that one.
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plenty of pics of the airlanding lads , staffs and borders, training in tunisia on WACO gliders, all armed with no4 rifles. check out the pegasus archive site.

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TALLERTHANBETTY wrote:
The earliest I've seen is some No.4's used on the Commando raids at Vaagso in late 1941, but I've been told that those particular rifles were inter-war trials rifles rather than the standard production examples.


I came across these pictures whilst watching a film about the Vaagso raid in Dec 1941.
Not very clear due to the circumstances under which they were recorded. These show No4 rifles in use as you say in late 1941.
Almost certainly the earliest combat use of this rifle.

British Commandos training near Inveraray in the Scottish highlands prior to the Vaagso raid.
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Commando during the Vaagso raid. The Bayonet silhouette gives this one away.
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Commando with No 4 guarding prisoners after the Vaagso raid.
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Faint but unmistakeable picture of a No 4 with spike bayonet carried by a Commando moving through Vaagso village during the raid.
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I've got a R.O.F.M no4 mk1 1941, serial number B19638 and a small upside down capital A underneath the serial number,,brass butt plate, S.L marked wood work with matching serial number on lower front wood section at the muzzle end, a mk3 long range (200-1300 yrd/m), there's a small F B 2 in the groove in the bolt, the cocking piece is grooved, the bolt release catch is A.M.L marked, the metal work just rear of the forward sight is marked S.M. on both top and bottom parts and arrow marks on most other bits of metal and wood. Are different parts from different manufacturers i.e. are some parts from longbranch, savage etc?

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Most of the marks you have described are British sub contractor marks, Savage actually sub contracted their production to Stevens and the squared S logo is the Savage logo not Stevens as most people believe. An LB logo would be Long Branch but not to be confused with the combined LB logo of Lines Brothers in the UK.


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found this a while back ... someone mentioned it above
crusader tank mk III which was around at el alamein - and 8th army?
obviously desert.... claims to be mersa matruh and what are they carrying?


we think mk1 no6s.
and SMLEs

1st army did have some crusader IIIs though


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To be a pedantic ass, it would be No.1MkVI. A rifle I've been wanting to add to my collection for about 18 years!


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