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 Post subject: Replica Welrods
PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 20:36 pm 
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Is anyone making good replica welrods?


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Relics make/ made a wooden one and its crap, other than that i`ve not seen any,

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Hmmm that's a shame cheers anyway


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You just wait until you see the one I am currently working on :-)

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There was an article in the Armourer magazine 2-3 years back about fake drill purpose Welrods made somewhere (IIRC) in Scandinavia. They were aged up and purposely made to be sold as original. They looked good, but I'm not sure how UK legal such a thing would be.

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I don't think they are TBH

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General Ignorance wrote:
You just wait until you see the one I am currently working on :-)


I WANT!

Make me one? ;)

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Well have a chat at coleshill mark


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Could always try find a Colt Woodsman pistol and fit a dummy silencer to the end of it? As the Hi-Standard silencer was developed by SOE utilising the same baffle system employed on the Welrod and was used by SOE personnel.

The Woodsman pistol would replicate the "Model B" Hi-Standard, thought to be an earlier varient of the final HD (HDM) model.

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I have seen similar posts in the past on this forum, i want one, i want one and i want one. When some one actually goes out of their way to actually making a couple of replicas what ever they are, spending time researching drawings and tooling, time and effort etc,etc, and they are actually produced and up for grabs, there's suddenly a sound of silence (tumble weed rolling in the background). All those who said they wanted one, you no long hear off, deathly silence or they want them for free as if you time and efforts were wasted just for them. :shock: :roll:
My advice is to make them for yourself.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:27 am 
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This is cut & pasted from the SOE / Jed section of the forum. I only transferred it to here as I thought people may find it of interest.

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Well after much messing about I have finally just about finished my prototype Welrod replica.

It's all the correct dimensions, made of steel that was bead blasted & chemically blacked it has a working bolt action, trigger, grip safety, magazine etc. So I don't get knicked for making "real" weapons it can't chamber a round, the trigger mechanism has been disabled & there is no extractor fitted or provision for fitting one.

At the moment the magazine grip is still hard epoxy, but once I get round to making a mould from the (slightly modified) existing one it will be rubber like it should be.

If you are wondering, I went for 9mm over the original .32 as the magazines are MUCH cheaper and this was just a bit of a laugh 1st attempt. Now I have worked most of the bugs out, I may consider doing a limited run in either the correct .32 or 9mm again in the future.

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Sorry about the poor pictures, I really need to save up for a new digital camera.

If I was to do a batch I suspect that they would be in the £200 - £300 price range, and a .32 magazine would be on an exchange basis. There is a hell of a lot of work goes into them.

IF YOU ARE SERIOUSLY INTERESTED. Please let me know as I will then look into getting a decent CAD programme written & getting them machined in a batch, as doing them 1 at a time by hand would not make sense. I would be looking for about 10 people to commit & ideally pay a deposit once I have got the drawings done & accurate costings sorted. If a batch was done these would be as close to the originals as possible, certainly much better than the MK1 (above). I would expect these to chamber a round but to avoid any legal issues they would NOT eject & THE BOLT WOULD BE SOLID WITH NO WORKING PARTS AT ALL. I would be happy to draw up written contracts laying out the final cost & delivery schedule. I am not a fly by night shark who will take your deposits & then disappear.

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An example of the "Drill Purpose" Welrod mentioned earlier. A fairly reasonable quality replica.


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wow i really like it 8)
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peregrinvs wrote:
There was an article in the Armourer magazine 2-3 years back about fake drill purpose Welrods made somewhere (IIRC) in Scandinavia. They were aged up and purposely made to be sold as original. They looked good, but I'm not sure how UK legal such a thing would be.



there was a few made up here in england by a dealer for another dealer

and yes they was being marked up as originals and sold accordingly
they was legally de-activated and sold with a uk de-ac certificate so there was no way to tell they was actually fakes

they have all the markings and everything on them tells you they are real

the only 1 thing that lets it down and gives it away is the barrel

if you look at the muzzle it looks like it fires a .22 (6mm)
if it was the real ww2 item it would fire a .32 (8mm)

they retailed at £2,200 the last i saw 1 for sale

relics do make a solid wood version that is cheap enough
i suppose quality wise you get what you pay for

i know relics make them ,, i gave them the plans/pictures

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