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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:18 am 
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Does anyone have the dimensions of the small cardboard ammunition boxes for .38â€

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I think I have a net and the label for the box for .38 rounds on PDF at home.
If you PM me your email address I will send them to you tonight.

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hey ho, monty has a web site with them on, its a yahoo group. if you go to the rations thead its in there. there very good as ive knocked up a few as clutter for the display.
in fact hereit is
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WW2rn/
join it-montys top hell let you in ;)-then bingo

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I tried using the plans in there and they were rubbish. The labels are okay, but the boxes should be just plain lids and bottoms, not the strange thing they have.

I have made a few repros in the past and intend to make a few more. I managed to pick up a couple of the boxes at Detling (60s dated, but much the same as in the pics in KD&JG).

Dimensions should be just big enough to get 2 levels of 6x .380 shells in each box.

The boxes seem to be waxed and the ousides coated in thin brown paper.

2 boxes conveniently fit in a standard ammo pouch side-by-side.

box 6cmx3.4cmx2cm (outer dimensions)
lid 6.4cmx3.6cmx1.2cm (outer dimensions)


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I designed some measurement diagrams a while ago along with labels:

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pm me if you havent found some already :)

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Cheers, so far everyone. Cant get on the Yahoo site though!?!

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The PDF's are for the boxes in the picture above designed my commando sniper

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Fair enough... but they're not the boxes that would go in the ammo pouch. They wouldn't fit.

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Thats good to know Yith. I was just offering what I had. Perhaps the PDF nets can be tweaked so they fit.
The 9mm ammo box looks close to the picture you posted.
I may have a play around with and see wat I can come up with

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i agree with you yith the box in the picture of the made up boxes is way to big and isnt a lift of lid box and the h codeing is wrong. the box seems to be modeled on a more modern red and yellow kynoch type box which i also have but isnt ww2 dated and the box layout looks like that apart from the labeling and colours the pic you posted of yours even though its a 60s box is correct.
i have a couple of full original ww2 dated boxes 43 dated and one is still sealed ( i have it on my collecting ammunition section on my firearms licence before the forum idiots come running ) its the exact same box apart from my label goes longways around the box and not across it like yours but that could be just the person on the production line who liked to put it on that way and with yours being a newer box the mk2 bit is diffrent mines mk IIz and not mk2 and the rounds are seperated on the levels by a type of thin greased paper hope that helps falling plate can post some pics if you want but its pretty much the same as yith picture and use his dimensions cheers

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Cheers for the PDF's and pictures Yith/Paul. All the advice is great, I think I will try making some like Yith has posted and Bazooka Chris has commented on.

Thanks everyone for the advice/help.

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Yeah Chris, I noticed that the pics in KD&JG have much the same label, but it goes long ways.

Interesting that the rounds are separated by grease proof paper, I'll have to give that a go.

(BTW, the rounds in mine are all dummys ;) )

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Hello Falling plate
I recently came across your question regarding the 38 " ammo boxes. Did you ever get any. Please let me know.

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Hello

I'd like to have the PDF File for the .380" Revolver Ammunition Box and label, who do I talk to to ask?
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Hello all,
I made some up literally 2 weeks ago, copied from an original. I did the old fashioned thing and drew a stencil though. I have a label that I drew also.

I can always make one if you like? It does take a while to make up though, and is very fiddly, so you will have to bear with me. Would ask for a couple of quid contribution.

Will take some pics of my ones comparing them to the original (60s marks) I copied. They are in the shed at the moment being weighted out with lead.
Also, you would need 2 boxes for one ammo pouch.

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There are 3 types of box that contained the .380 cartridge. The H.9, H.13 and the H.25.

Follow the links for details on each box and how they were packed.
H.9 mk I
H.9 mk III
H.9 mk IIIE
H.13 mk I
H.13 mk III
H.25 mk I
H.25 mk IIIE

There are 2 types of Carton or Bundles.

Cartons No. 10 of 12 rounds
Cartons No. 10 of 18 rounds (blanks)
Bundles of 12 rounds

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