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what ho, ive got a nice little fairburn sykes knife but unfurntly the blade is a bit rust- all just surface - but the blacking is dammaged , where can i get it redone? id rather geta pro to do it to garantee a good finish.

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Same for me, any ideas?

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try the little mesters at kalam island ind. museum in sheffield


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A lot of the blades coming through from Little Mesters and Reg Cooper (the guy still making the commando knives in Sheffield) are currently oil blackened. Worth an ask, however - if you get no joy I'll have a word with Reg and see if he'll do the job - he often takes his own sweet time, however being a two man band.

Just in case you have difficulty finding contact details, it's spelt Kelham Island Industrial Museum - not having a go at Andy's spelling but if directory enquiries asks you to spell it to them, they'll need all the help they can get :D

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Colonel Blimp wrote:
A lot of the blades coming through from Little Mesters and Reg Cooper (the guy still making the commando knives in Sheffield) are currently oil blackened. Worth an ask, however - if you get no joy I'll have a word with Reg and see if he'll do the job - he often takes his own sweet time, however being a two man band.

Just in case you have difficulty finding contact details, it's spelt Kelham Island Industrial Museum - not having a go at Andy's spelling but if directory enquiries asks you to spell it to them, they'll need all the help they can get :D

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True, although I'm not sure he's going to need to spell that to Directory Enquiries, Dave :D

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I'm in a similar situation with an original, did any of you get your knives refinished at Kelham Island, and how did it go?

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Hmm, Kelham are only just recovering from the floods so I'm not sure how much work will have been undertaken there recently.

Be interesting to see if anyone decides to have the work undertaken.

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Frost do a metal blacking kit in their car restoration catalogue.

Quite how good it is I cannot comment.


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snowyx2622 wrote:
what ho, ive got a nice little fairburn sykes knife but unfurntly the blade is a bit rust- all just surface - but the blacking is dammaged , where can i get it redone? id rather geta pro to do it to garantee a good finish.


Is it pre '45 made? if so please leave as is, there's lots of 'em still being made in Sheffield.
Do you intend to use it for re-enacting or keep it for your own collection?


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If you want to oil black anything, non original, then use old engine oil, out of a diesel engine... (more black than old petrol engine oil)... do this down the bottom of the garden.. with a fire fighting gear sutable to put a very large chip pan fire out... heat up the object till not quite red hot.. lower into the oil using long pliers, and move it about till it stops smoking. then its oil blacked, an abolute filthy dangerous job, but it will provide a rustproof finish on old tools etc. making them look new.
WEAR P.P.E WHEN DOING THIS!!

dont blame me if you burn your house/shed/garage down, and get black oilstains thhat will never come out on your patio

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musthava ganda wrote:
If you want to oil black anything, non original, then use old engine oil, out of a diesel engine... (more black than old petrol engine oil)... do this down the bottom of the garden.. with a fire fighting gear sutable to put a very large chip pan fire out... heat up the object till not quite red hot.. lower into the oil using long pliers, and move it about till it stops smoking. then its oil blacked, an abolute filthy dangerous job, but it will provide a rustproof finish on old tools etc. making them look new.
WEAR P.P.E WHEN DOING THIS!!

dont blame me if you burn your house/shed/garage down, and get black oilstains thhat will never come out on your patio

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Cool! :D I'm going to have a go at that! PPE you say.....OK, hint taken.

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musthava ganda wrote:
If you want to oil black anything, non original, then use old engine oil, out of a diesel engine... (more black than old petrol engine oil)... do this down the bottom of the garden.. with a fire fighting gear sutable to put a very large chip pan fire out... heat up the object till not quite red hot.. lower into the oil using long pliers, and move it about till it stops smoking. then its oil blacked, an abolute filthy dangerous job, but it will provide a rustproof finish on old tools etc. making them look new.
WEAR P.P.E WHEN DOING THIS!!

dont blame me if you burn your house/shed/garage down, and get black oilstains thhat will never come out on your patio

W. :D

I used to do that in Metalwork at school - way back in the 70s.....

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Oh, and use as much oil as you can.. any thing less than a pint WILL burst into flames.. also if your treating multiple items, be aware that oil gets more flamable the hotter it gets, best do this in the evening, so the smokes not seen, only the ponk of a burning car engine abounds ...

be very carefull if you want to have a go.. :wink:

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The gunshop.co.uk sells proper Parkerizing kits, if you oil black it you will make it hard and brittle.
you will have to wait they have been hit by the server crash too.

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I can't believe that you are talking of heating a blade 'not quite red-hot' and then dipping it, you could cock-up the blade completely, too hot you could make it brittle like a piece of glass, wrong temp. you could soften it, you could even warp it, it's best left alone.

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