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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 22:53 pm 
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is that yours mate........NICE

My Model 12 (clone)....would look good alongside that !

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certainly is had to drive to manchester to get it but it was worth it

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whats the serial number ?

has it got the shoulder rubber protector?

How is it marked on the barrel ?

What approx date is it ?

Was it one of the batch from the "Embassy" gun lot ?

Also i just noticed ...thats got correct sling swivels back and front and is the correct "plum colour".....

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its marked u.s. on the right side of the receiver, p. proof marks on the receiver and barrel, serial number on receiver 64598 and on the barrel s8104 and it has the recoil pad.

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Ok so that checks out as a middle 60s one right ?

Didnt the fabled 1420 fall into the low 5,s serial numbers as you gotta figure some of these 1420 must have been retro fitted and rebuilt for the Vietnam Conflict

i got an old civilian 12G USMC coloured "orangey tan" waist belt you can have mate remind me friday i will bring it over for ya when i pick up the boy

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Which model trench/riot shotgunis it that they use in The Wild Bunch? Its set in 1914 I think so I know its not the Ithaca.
The Wild bunch by the way is a fantastic film for anyone interested in US Military weapons, its a western I know, but they get their guns from a train heading for Mexico to supply US Marines, and rob a bank disguised as Marines.


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They were Winchester 1897s mate.....in the Wild Bunch

Winchester Model 1897s and Model 12s were the most common of all WW2 Trench and Riot Guns

Stevens 520 and 620 were next

Remington Model 11s were less common

Then the Ithaca 37 was the rarest

Is that correct Wayne ?

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spot on mate unless you include unaltered ww1 remington model 10,s with the wooden handguard still in place, re the ithaca according to the springfield research website it was last in service in the panama canal zone

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God yes i forgot those....those are RARE as the proverbial Rocking Horse Poo

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I once owned a winchester 1897. Way back in the 1960s the one I had alledgedly was 'acquired from Bovingdon USAAF base. This had a bayonet attachment and a ventilated handguard. Sadly this has long sice gone from my possesion ,sold for the princely sum of £25. I used it for poaching,as it's short length made it ideal to conceal under a Parka. When the law changed and shotguns with a barrel length of less than 24 inches became a firearm I got rid. I have used a winchester1897 with a 30inch barrel as a sporting shotgun, also a model 12. I think the 1897 had a bit of wild west charm as it had the same gutted rabbit look when the pump was pulled back as the legendary winchester rifles.
Has n't thrown much light on the subject, just thought I'd share one of my intesting conquests in my lifelong love affair with weaponry.

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